Marvel's Iron Fist Season 2 - Much Better

[Umbran]

Two year moratorium.

If they wanted to, they could throw money at it and make it go away. I'm going to guess they don't want to.

 

[cmad1977]

As I understand it, Netflix stopped producing the shows mostly because they weren’t doing very well and they lose less money holding onto the rights for a couple years and NOT producing the shows.

 

[Umbran]

As I understand it, Netflix stopped producing the shows mostly because they weren’t doing very well and they lose less money holding onto the rights for a couple years and NOT producing the shows.

You understand incorrectly. Yes, the shows were slowly losing audience as the seasons stacked up, but that is true about most shows. Their performance hadn't dropped so low, and they were getting good critical acclaim. If there weren't other things in motion, they'd have continued.

The other things in motion are:

1) Disney's own streaming service. Disney is going to pull *ALL* of its other content off Netflix. And, they are aiming to have a solid lineup of their own new Marvel content. So, if Netflix were to continue with the Defenders cluster of shows, every episode would effectively be an advertisement for the content over on Disney's streaming service, instead of keeping them on Netflix.

2) Demographics. If there had been a large number of people who came to Netflix primarily for the Marvel content, they might have kept them. But, it turns out that those people watching the Marvel shows were already avid Netflix customers, and/or very likely to keep coming to Netflix so long as they continued to have similarly high-quality content. They were performing well, but not pulling in new customers that couldn't be pulled in by other content.

These two killed the shows. If I can keep those viewers with other content, and not advertise for another service, that's the sound business choice.

 

[Ryujin]

You understand incorrectly. Yes, the shows were slowly losing audience as the seasons stacked up, but that is true about most shows. Their performance hadn't dropped so low, and they were getting good critical acclaim. If there weren't other things in motion, they'd have continued.

The other things in motion are:

1) Disney's own streaming service. Disney is going to pull *ALL* of its other content off Netflix. And, they are aiming to have a solid lineup of their own new Marvel content. So, if Netflix were to continue with the Defenders cluster of shows, every episode would effectively be an advertisement for the content over on Disney's streaming service, instead of keeping them on Netflix.

2) Demographics. If there had been a large number of people who came to Netflix primarily for the Marvel content, they might have kept them. But, it turns out that those people watching the Marvel shows were already avid Netflix customers, and/or very likely to keep coming to Netflix so long as they continued to have similarly high-quality content. They were performing well, but not pulling in new customers that couldn't be pulled in by other content.

These two killed the shows. If I can keep those viewers with other content, and not advertise for another service, that's the sound business choice.

Despite the fact that I was actually a viewer who picked up Netflix precisely because of the Marvel content, I agree wholeheartedly with your analysis.

 

[Umbran]

Despite the fact that I was actually a viewer who picked up Netflix precisely because of the Marvel content, I agree wholeheartedly with your analysis.

Yes, and, at this point, if Netflix touted some new content that looked to have the same level of quality and complexity of theme, would you watch it, now that you have the service?

To an extent, we can consider that these shows have served their purpose, putting Netflix on the map for high-quality content.

 

[Ryujin]

Yes, and, at this point, if Netflix touted some new content that looked to have the same level of quality and complexity of theme, would you watch it, now that you have the service?

To an extent, we can consider that these shows have served their purpose, putting Netflix on the map for high-quality content.

They've gone even further than that by producing movies the quality of "Bright" and "Annihilation", so the answer is yes.

 

[Hussar]

Never minding that, they're also diving straight back into comic book fare with The Umbrella Academy. Here, at least, we're also getting the DCU stuff on Netflix as well, including the new Teen Titans.

Could be that DC makes the move over to Netflix as well as other comic book companies like Dark Horse and the like.

 

[Dannyalcatraz]

Never minding that, they're also diving straight back into comic book fare with The Umbrella Academy. Here, at least, we're also getting the DCU stuff on Netflix as well, including the new Teen Titans.

Could be that DC makes the move over to Netflix as well as other comic book companies like Dark Horse and the like.

I was thinking along those lines myself. It would be gutsy if they did a Dark Horse Swiss centered on Titan, including his insanity and death.

Or maybe Astro City. Or Powers. Or Cerebus.

 

[billd91]

I was thinking along those lines myself. It would be gutsy if they did a Dark Horse Swiss centered on Titan, including his insanity and death.

Or maybe Astro City. Or Powers. Or Cerebus.

As much as I like Cerebus, mainly the early stories, I wouldn't touch any licensing on that one with a 10 meter pole.

 

[Dannyalcatraz]

Just because Dave Sim’s views on things cultural might be a tad...inflammatory? Solution to that: cap out the series to X many issues, or certain storylines. The stuff with the Roach, Elrond, and Julius would be killer.

Hell...they could even do what production companies do either superheroes: come up with new stories based on and consistent with the original character, in this case, sans the ugly.