Ryujin
Legend
If any of you haven't yet seen the documentary "The Death of Superman Lives: What Happened", you really need to.
NEWS; Gunning down the Snyderverse UPDATE Cavill gets the Kryptonite handshake!
Kaodi
Hero
The thing about "superhero fatigue" is that it can be both real and insufficient. Like, even if I am a little tired of superhero movies I am still going to watch them as long as they deliver on the baseline premise of the genre. I am sure long time fans of Law & Order get tired too but those series are still going and going in some form or another.
ART!
Deluxe Unhuman
Yeah - westerns "died out", but they still make 'em!
Fatigue doesn’t mean dead, it means no longer raking in money hand over fist. Sure they will keep making movies but they aren’t going to be top of the chart blockbusters and you’ll see a lot fewer of them each year.
Tonguez
A suffusion of yellow
Yeah, this. Afterall the first Superhero movie I saw at a theatre was Spiderman in 1979! Superheroes have featured throughout cinema (100 years if you count Zorro) but the current glut is far beyond anything previously, kinda how Westerns dominated the 50/60s and Action Movies the 80s.
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Grendel_Khan
Hero
In hindsight Gunn seems inevitable—after being a critical laughingstock pretty consistently since Man of Steel, DC must have seen Gunn's rave reviews for The Suicide Squad and Peacemaker as an oasis in the desert. People love to trash or dismiss critics (especially MCU diehards!) but that stuff has cumulative weight, and it gets embarrassing within the industry when everyone knows your stuff collectively sucks.
But how cool is it that it's someone like Gunn? Whatever you think about how Gunn might tackle the kind of material he hasn't before (like the young Superman project) it's pretty amazing to have someone as genuinely smart and, at least as a writer, absolutely anti-establishment as him. Peacemaker and The Suicide Squad are hopeful on a personal level while tearing traditional supercop nonsense to shreds. And Gunn is actually very funny, in ways that stuff like Thor: Love & Thunder completely whiffed at. Also his stuff is insanely memorable, which isn't true of almost any superhero movies.
Whatever he makes or helps make, I'll bet it won't just be "watchable" filler. That seems exciting even for people like me who want the entire superhero thing to fly into the sun already.
Also, after WW84, Patty Jenkins deserves to be in director jail for a while. No one took that project away from her or turned it into something it wasn't supposed to be. It was hers through and through, and it was maybe the dumbest superhero movie since Corman's unreleased Fantastic Four.
But how cool is it that it's someone like Gunn? Whatever you think about how Gunn might tackle the kind of material he hasn't before (like the young Superman project) it's pretty amazing to have someone as genuinely smart and, at least as a writer, absolutely anti-establishment as him. Peacemaker and The Suicide Squad are hopeful on a personal level while tearing traditional supercop nonsense to shreds. And Gunn is actually very funny, in ways that stuff like Thor: Love & Thunder completely whiffed at. Also his stuff is insanely memorable, which isn't true of almost any superhero movies.
Whatever he makes or helps make, I'll bet it won't just be "watchable" filler. That seems exciting even for people like me who want the entire superhero thing to fly into the sun already.
Also, after WW84, Patty Jenkins deserves to be in director jail for a while. No one took that project away from her or turned it into something it wasn't supposed to be. It was hers through and through, and it was maybe the dumbest superhero movie since Corman's unreleased Fantastic Four.
Grendel_Khan
Hero
Snyder should stop denying himself and just make an entire movie in unbroken slomo.
Ryujin
Legend
Funny thing is that Corman's FF was closer to the comics than the recent two outings and the only thing really laughable was the budget.
ART!
Deluxe Unhuman
Yes - that movie's heart is in the right place.
I like to think of Tim Story's FF movies as really good made-for-tv- or direct-to-video-type movies.
Josh Trank's FF movie is...
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...technically well-made? I guess?
Grendel_Khan
Hero
Those are some seriously rose-tinted glasses, but you do you. When I interned at Marvel the bullpen folks (inkers, letterers, etc.) did a screening in the office with a bootleg VHS, and it was maybe the funniest moviegoing experience I've ever had. I guess it had that going for it? I kind of miss the days of every Marvel movie being bad-even-for-a-B-movie.
And man, every single shot of Mr. Fantastic stretching....hoo boy.
