Picard Season 3

[Henadic Theologian]

I think it all would have been much more satisfying if they'd stuck with the Changelings as the big bad (just made some new uber-changeling into the boss, with some connection to DS9 somehow.) I mean, I get that it wouldn't have been as Picard-centric that way, but it wouldn't have killed the previous season quite so badly.

I don't really look at Dr. Jurati as Borg Collective, I look at her as part of the Cooperative. Plus part of her Borgness comes from an alternate timeline.

 

[Micah Sweet]

Imagine Discovery without the Discovery characters.

Then who will they give all the plot and spotlight to?

 

[FitzTheRuke]

I don't really look at Dr. Jurati as Borg Collective, I look at her as part of the Cooperative. Plus part of her Borgness comes from an alternate timeline.

Yeah, I agree with that when it comes to Jurati-queen. I think that's how they get a pass for redoing the Borg so quickly. STILL, it felt like a bit of a retread. It had as many satisfying moments, such as finishing them off "for good" (if you can believe it) as it did disappointing moments, such as the Queen essentially "standing" around while she's defeated, unable to do anything at all.

I liked it quite a bit, overall, but I always enjoy spit-balling ideas on how things could have been better, even if there's no way to be sure if it really would make them better, or just different. (Or worse! I admit that they could also be worse!)

 

[Clint_L]

I think it all would have been much more satisfying if they'd stuck with the Changelings as the big bad (just made some new uber-changeling into the boss, with some connection to DS9 somehow.) I mean, I get that it wouldn't have been as Picard-centric that way, but it wouldn't have killed the previous season quite so badly.

You are absolutely correct...except that season 2 sucked so bad that pretending it never happened is a choice that I am perfectly okay with.

 

[FitzTheRuke]

You are absolutely correct...except that season 2 sucked so bad that pretending it never happened is a choice that I am perfectly okay with.

I thought it was "okay" (not great, but fine) until Season 3 hit, and I realized how robbed we'd been of much better Picard. STPs3 actually made me like the first two seasons less by comparison.

 

[ART!]

I think ENT's problems did reflect a real problem with approaches to acting/directing.

I think the issue was more though that they didn't have enough of a vision of how they wanted the show to be, how they wanted the characters to be, so all the actors essentially reverted to rather downplaying things - "safe mode" as it were - except Billingsley - he's an experienced stage actor and I don't think his default mode is the "safe" mode!

"Safe mode" is a really good way to put it.

 

[trappedslider]

Star Trek: Enterprise Wasn't a Failure, Paramount's Network Was

Some fans think of Enterprise as the show that killed Star Trek, but it was the failure of the United Paramount Network that sunk that starship.

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[Ryujin]

Star Trek: Enterprise Wasn't a Failure, Paramount's Network Was

Some fans think of Enterprise as the show that killed Star Trek, but it was the failure of the United Paramount Network that sunk that starship.

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Paramount's network was a failure because the best it could do, was a show like "Enterprise." I watched every episode, as they came out. It's what convinced me that I really don't have to do that, just because a show has "Star Trek" on the label.

 

[Ruin Explorer]

Paramount's network was a failure because the best it could do, was a show like "Enterprise." I watched every episode, as they came out. It's what convinced me that I really don't have to do that, just because a show has "Star Trek" on the label.

Yeah ENT broke me of the Star Trek habit. I mean, VOY did a lot of damage, but ENT was the finishing move. I watched TNG and DS9 absolutely religiously, to the point of seeking out VHS tapes of stuff that hadn't aired on the BBC or even getting one entire season on bootleg imported VHSes from a friend because it was delayed in the UK (possibly the first season of DS9? I forget). I was an actual Trek fan, a Trekkie if you will. I was pleased rather than horrified when I found out a stretchy burgundy top I had made me look like Captain Kirk.

And I was excited about VOY, and despite it disappointing me a lot I did watch all of it, in the end. But ENT? I've seen all of it since, out of sheer pandemic boredom, but at the time I just stopped making any effort sometime in S2, and only saw random episodes from S3 and S4.

Given this was a flagship product for Paramount, that tells you a lot about the quality of their output.

 

[billd91]

Paramount's network was a failure because the best it could do, was a show like "Enterprise." I watched every episode, as they came out. It's what convinced me that I really don't have to do that, just because a show has "Star Trek" on the label.

Part of the problem was viewers like me couldn't watch episodes of Enterprise as they came out. Our UPN affiliate was a fairly weak and distant UHF broadcaster and we didn't have cable. The three prior Treks, all of which made it to seven seasons, had been fully available to me because they were syndicated. Had Enterprise been syndicated, I believe it would have done much better. But it was saddled with having to be the flagship of UPN, exclusively.