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Critical Role Critical Role removes hundreds of YouTube videos and podcast episodes.

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Maxperson

Morkus from Orkus
Those are the people who made this decision.
If all of them were on board, then I have no issue. If some of them made the decision for others, then I have issue. Above I'm speaking in general, though. Movies and shows get pulled when an actor gets cancelled and those innocents dependent on the money aren't consulted and on board with losing their livelihoods.

I don't know the specifics of this situation.
 

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FrogReaver

As long as i get to be the frog
In general I have never been a fan of "Remove the content so we can punish 1 person while also punishing several innocent people who also need money from that content." If it were only that one person, then fine. But if you're depriving people who didn't do anything wrong of income(and who might depend on it to stay in their homes or eat) so that you can get at one wrongdoer, that seems morally and ethically wrong. Punish him another way.

I have no idea if this is the case here, but it seems likely that in group content if he is getting money, so are innocent others.
Even then, bad person or not, he put his creative efforts into making videos that he had an expectation to continue making money on until audience interest naturally waned. *assuming the deal was structured that way.

I’m not a huge fan of forcing CR to host those videos, but if they don’t want to then ethically it seems others maybe should be given the opportunity to do so?
 

Those are the people who made this decision.
Some of the videos that were removed had interviews with people who made guest appearances on CR. I remember there being an interview with Chris Perkins for example and who knows if they asked him before removing it. He doesn't strike me as the type who would object given the circumstances.

But we don't know and likely never will, so here's to 50 more pages of speculation in this thread.
 

Maxperson

Morkus from Orkus
Even then, bad person or not, he put his creative efforts into making videos that he had an expectation to continue making money on until audience interest naturally waned. *assuming the deal was structured that way.

I’m not a huge fan of forcing CR to host those videos, but if they don’t want to then ethically it seems others maybe should be given the opportunity to do so?
If it's just the one person who has money riding on the media, I have no problem with that person losing it. The host platform, be it youtube, Paramount or Tiktok has no obligation to keep hosting the content of the wrongdoer. To do so make them somewhat complicit. Sort of an accessory after the fact. Nor in my opinion do they have an obligation to allow someone else to host the content in violation of whatever contract or rights in the property that they have. Giving someone else the okay to host it is little better than hosting it yourself.

It's only when there are innocents are being burned at the stake along with the offender that I take issue. They don't deserve the punishment and loss of livelihood.
 



bedir than

Full Moon Storyteller
I’m not a huge fan of forcing CR to host those videos, but if they don’t want to then ethically it seems others maybe should be given the opportunity to do so?
In what version of ethics is this ethical?

We don't want an abuser to profit off of harming one of us so maybe we should let someone else profit off of this person harming one of us isn't at all ethical.
 

FrogReaver

As long as i get to be the frog
In what version of ethics is this ethical?

We don't want an abuser to profit off of harming one of us so maybe we should let someone else profit off of this person harming one of us isn't at all ethical.
In none of these cases is anyone profiting off harming someone else. If you really think they are maybe you can explain how?
 


FrogReaver

As long as i get to be the frog
Old CR shows exist either on paid access channels or ad supported channels. There is money involved
Right. Obviously that’s not the part I’m objecting to. You said profiting off of harm. You’ve failed to show the profit was off any harm. After harm yes! But not off of harm…
 

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