D&D 5E Vecna Adventure Next Year and Obilesks *SPOILERS*

[pukunui]

* I suspect the Weavers aren't a new creature, but an update or retcon of the "spellwavers".

Bingo! They are one and the same. The picture in Shattered Obelisk isn’t even new. It’s the Spellweaver art from 4e!

Spellweaver

Spellweavers, also known as Weavers, were a race of highly intelligent humanoids originating from an alternate Prime Material plane. Gifted with an unprecedented mastery of the Art, they built an empire that spanned the multiverse before meeting a tragic and almost instant end. Weavers were...

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[JEB]

So, spell weavers being a remnant of an earlier, erased multiverse apparently isn't new lore, but actually goes back to 3E. 2E had them being from "an alternate Prime Material Plane".

Also of note - Vecna had a part in transforming the 2E multiverse into the 3E multiverse (or at least it's very heavily implied).

So did Vecna discover the spell weavers' knowledge during his time as an uber-god at the end of 2E, and then erase the weavers' "alternate" Material Plane? Leaving the rest as refugees?

Or, alternatively... do spell weavers still exist in the 5E canon at all? Or was their appearance in 4E their last gasp, before Vecna erased them entirely, creating the current 5E canon? Do we have Vecna to thank for the current version of 5E?

 

[Parmandur]

So, spell weavers being a remnant of an earlier, erased multiverse apparently isn't new lore, but actually goes back to 3E. 2E had them being from "an alternate Prime Material Plane".

Also of note - Vecna had a part in transforming the 2E multiverse into the 3E multiverse (or at least it's very heavily implied).

So did Vecna discover the spell weavers' knowledge during his time as an uber-god at the end of 2E, and then erase the weavers' "alternate" Material Plane? Leaving the rest as refugees?

Or, alternatively... do spell weavers still exist in the 5E canon at all? Or was their appearance in 4E their last gasp, before Vecna erased them entirely, creating the current 5E canon? Do we have Vecna to thank for the current version of 5E?

I think k WotC plans to use Vecna to set themselves up for the future shortly, however they do it.

 

[vecna00]

So, spell weavers being a remnant of an earlier, erased multiverse apparently isn't new lore, but actually goes back to 3E. 2E had them being from "an alternate Prime Material Plane".

Also of note - Vecna had a part in transforming the 2E multiverse into the 3E multiverse (or at least it's very heavily implied).

So did Vecna discover the spell weavers' knowledge during his time as an uber-god at the end of 2E, and then erase the weavers' "alternate" Material Plane? Leaving the rest as refugees?

Or, alternatively... do spell weavers still exist in the 5E canon at all? Or was their appearance in 4E their last gasp, before Vecna erased them entirely, creating the current 5E canon? Do we have Vecna to thank for the current version of 5E?

I would posit that they do exist in 5e, but because knowledge of them was erased, no one knows about them. I wouldn't put it past Vecna to actually set it up so anyone who sees one actually forgets about it entirely.

I'm 100% thinking that Vecna is responsible for every version of D&D past 2nd edition now.

 

[JEB]

I think k WotC plans to use Vecna to set themselves up for the future shortly, however they do it.

It will certainly be interesting to see a canonical acknowledgement of the policy choice to make previous editions into different canons. Maybe we'll even see more refugees from prior editions or other canons during this Vecna crisis...

 

[JEB]

I'm 100% thinking that Vecna is responsible for every version of D&D past 2nd edition now.

Vecna has remained a core part of every canon since 2E; he was even a member of 4E's core pantheon.

 

[vecna00]

Vecna has remained a core part of every canon since 2E; he was even a member of 4E's core pantheon.

Looking back, we can say that "he made himself important."

I really like the possibilities of all of this.

 

[Parmandur]

I would posit that they do exist in 5e, but because knowledge of them was erased, no one knows about them. I wouldn't put it past Vecna to actually set it up so anyone who sees one actually forgets about it entirely.

I'm 100% thinking that Vecna is responsible for every version of D&D past 2nd edition now.

Well, he has always been the ultimate D&D baddie: now Stranger Things has super cemented that in pop culture, they will lean into it harder.

 

[Parmandur]

Looking back, we can say that "he made himself important."

I really like the possibilities of all of this.

Setting up hooks and possibilities is what WotC job is, really.

 

[vecna00]

Well, he has always been the ultimate D&D baddie: now Stranger Things has super cemented that in pop culture, they will lean into it harder.

Indeed!

Also, do you remember where in the book you found that spoiler from the other thread? I've been looking for it in the Shattered Obelisk and I can't find it.