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D&D General One thing I hate about the Sorcerer

Remathilis

Legend
Unironically would make for an amazing world to RP in though. Think of the random stories and lore bits you could come up with if things like this are possible.
I really kinda wish that people would use magic as a background to world building more. Eberron does, but it specifically takes a more modern take on its world (replacing technology for magic) rather than a mythic or fairy tale take. Sadly, even a world like Faerun mostly keeps the notion of mundane medieval peasants living in a world of Gods and Monsters.
 

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CreamCloud0

One day, I hope to actually play DnD.
Yeah the whole 'zero to hero' is the character type I love the most. But over the years it seems like DnD is moving away from that.

And talking with people on here and other places like reddit, it seems like most of the community wants it to move away from that, and towards 'hero to demigod' instead.
'hero to demigod' is just starting at level 10 and going from there, but people won't admit it, it's not like the game forces you to start at 1st level.
 

Remathilis

Legend
I think

Says you. Fisher kings exist in the Feywild. Magic items there were made of things like "a sense of wonder." And you can shape plants there into giant shape, then Awaken them.
"... In the feywild." Not in Faerun. The point is the Fisher King should be far more prevalent if the world rewards epic deeds with epic magic. If it doesn't, then we lose the idea that a farmboy can throw mountains just because he killed enough Orcs.
 

EzekielRaiden

Follower of the Way
Is that actual superpower plot armor?
No. For Superman, his true superpower is his unshakable moral center, which he acquired from Ma and Pa Kent. He will always do the right thing, for the right reason, at the right time, whatever the cost he must personally pay to do it. As Batman says in a famous comic page, "It is a remarkable dichotomy. In many ways, Clark is the most human of us all. Then...he shoots fire from the skies, and it's difficult not to think of him as a god. And how fortunate we are that it does not occur to him." (Emphasis in original) His Kryptonian biology is simply an enabler; it allows his true superpower to display itself, in all its glory.

Batman's superpower is his absolute, unshakable iron will, his determination. Unlike Superman, he is not a moral paragon; he does have high standards, but he is willing to bend some rules, even as he upholds others to the end. He's a heroic Magnificent Bastard, who will uphold his oath. As his DCAU incarnation said to Doctor Destiny, when the latter taunted him psychically:
DD: "We're like insects to them. They step on us, ruin our lives, and they don't even realize it! But you're different. You don't have any special powers."
Batman: "Oh, I have one, Johnny: I never give up."

Each, in his own way, proves the truth of John Dryden's verse: "How ill my fear they by my mercy scan,/Beware the fury of a patient man."
 

EzekielRaiden

Follower of the Way
"... In the feywild." Not in Faerun. The point is the Fisher King should be far more prevalent if the world rewards epic deeds with epic magic. If it doesn't, then we lose the idea that a farmboy can throw mountains just because he killed enough Orcs.
Such things were more prevalent.

In the edition that must not be named.

Floating ruin-cities and shards of ancient evil and fairy-rings that take you to another world and the plain fact that all that is, is alive and the universe itself growing an immune system to fight off Things That Should Not Be and...

It's quite possible to do it. And as soon as you do, particular people start complaining.
 

TwoSix

Dirty, realism-hating munchkin powergamer
Unironically would make for an amazing world to RP in though. Think of the random stories and lore bits you could come up with if things like this are possible.
There's nothing in the rules that precludes doing that if you want to. Any magical effect can be assigned to an NPC or granted as a possible result of a skill/ability check, if it passes a "plausible narration" test.

You simply decide as a DM that a powerful queen granting boons to their entire kingdom is a plausible narration in your setting.
 

Minigiant

Legend
Supporter
I kinda want the sorcerer=dragon thing to to go away. worst class for representing dragons, even back in 3e. You needed a prestige class for tht and turned yiu into a half-caster,

Edit - don't mind the rant. It's dumb to say, I know
Like we said way at the beginning of the thread, it's only because WOTC and other 3PPs won't go all the way with it.
 


Batman is one of the Top 10 martial artist on Earth.

That's why I say people don't want mundane T3 and T4 mundanes

Batman has 8-10 attacks per turn at +10 damage and Expertise and Reliable Talent in Stealth and Intimidation without Ki.
On the contrary, I'd only put Batman as something like a level 11 martial. He's good, but he's not even touching some of the high or even mid level DnD monsters in combat. At least 1v1 without prep.

'Batman with prep' is a meme in of itself.
 

Minigiant

Legend
Supporter
On the contrary, I'd only put Batman as something like a level 11 martial. He's good, but he's not even touching some of the high or even mid level DnD monsters in combat. At least 1v1 without prep.

'Batman with prep' is a meme in of itself.
You're not getting what I'm saying .

Batman is only level 11 in D&D because D&D doesn't have the mechanics to properly represent how skilled he is in combat.
 

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