D&D General The 13th Age 2nd Edition Kickstarter Has Launched

SteveC

Doing the best imitation of myself

• May 8, 2024

• #21

Retreater said:

Well, I backed it despite some reservations. It's only money, right?

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You are one of the people I interact with a fair bit here, so I think I can be confident you will like it, even if there will be some things not to your taste. If I'm wrong and you end up coming to a Con I go to, there will be a beer or suitable beverage bought by me to dull some of the pain.

 

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Blue

Ravenous Bugblatter Beast of Traal

• May 8, 2024

• #22

mamba said:

so 4e then... I see myself out

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It's closest to 5e of all of the editions of D&D. Or rather, since it came out first, 5e is the edition of D&D closest to it.

 

Akodoken

Explorer

• May 8, 2024

• #23

It is a "love letter" to D&D. It's an F20 game according to the designers. I think that qualifies it as a version of D&D in some capacity.

I am enjoying the Beta packet. They took a lot of our feedback from the Alpha playtest and made improvements, plus some new stuff. 13th Age 2E is on the right track. I backed it, for sure.

 

Z

Zaukrie

New Publisher

• May 8, 2024

• #24

I do love reading this game, and use some monsters and lore

 

Yaarel

He-Mage

• May 8, 2024

• #25

13a isnt 5e, but both are D&D.

Consider how different the editions of 0e, BECMI, 1e-2e, 3e, 4e, and 5e are from each other mechanically, but they are all part of the ongoing D&D tradition.

Likewise PF1-PF2, and other indies that continue the D&D tradition are D&D.

 

MichaelSomething

Legend

• May 8, 2024

• #26

Over 200k! Woooo!

 

EzekielRaiden

Follower of the Way

• May 8, 2024

• #27

Lord Shark said:

Looking through the playtest beta, they've added champion- and epic-tier talents to the paladin, so you're not stuck picking from the same little pool of talents for your paladin for your entire career (like the 5E battlemaster). Smite and Lay on Hands are now both class abilities so they don't cost a talent pick. Smite also scales in damage by level rather than by tier (up to +10d12).

It's still one of the simpler classes though.

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Frankly, those changes alone make a big difference.

Edit Especially if it's coupled with some of the other fixes I've seen mentioned around the net, as more than a few folks were of the impression that the existing Paladin genuinely fell behind other classes over time due to not having enough talents (not just having to pick from the same pool). IIRC it was an extra 2 or maybe 3 talents sprinkled across its levels.

 

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mamba

Legend

• May 8, 2024

• #28

Blue said:

It's closest to 5e of all of the editions of D&D. Or rather, since it came out first, 5e is the edition of D&D closest to it.

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from my understanding it is an evolution of 4e, kinda an alternative 5e, but I have no first hand experience with it so cannot say if it is closest to 5e

 

EzekielRaiden

Follower of the Way

• May 8, 2024

• #29

mamba said:

from my understanding it is an evolution of 4e, kinda an alternative 5e, but I have no first hand experience with it so cannot say if it is closest to 5e

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I would not personally say it is very close to 5e, but rather that it does the reverse of what 5e did.

5e said 4e was terrible, so it snuck in a few bits and pieces from 4e and then actively avoided keeping anything else, striving as much as possible to be "3e but not so thoroughly broken."

13A said 4e was great, keep as much as possible, but bring back some of what made 3e great too. Which shouldn't be at all surprising, because its designers were Heinsoo and Tweet, the lead designers of 4e and 3e respectively.

 

Weiley31

Legend

• May 8, 2024

• #30

I'm so glad this is backwards compatible. Which means I can play 13th age now with the 2E Beta rules+13th Age: Gloranthra+the current released 13th age classes via 13 Ways.
As well as the superb 3pp supplements by Kinoko Games.