Ahsoka - SPOILERS

delericho

Legend
I very much enjoyed the finale, just as I've very much enjoyed the show as a whole. In terms of the comparison with "Andor"... I wouldn't - they're just very different shows, and I enjoyed both.

I did feel that the ending was rather predictable, but found myself less bothered by that than I'd expected.

I do wonder: when Ezra went to dock with the Rebel fleet, did they let him land because he told them there were Jedi on board? :D
 

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Hussar

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I just don't really see a difference between animation and live action. Moving pictures telling a story are moving pictures telling a story. Apart from in this particular instance, the animation is better.
Hang on a tick. Let's be fair. A LOT of Clone Wars was less than stellar. Season 1? Not exactly the greatest storytelling ever. There are more than a few Clone Wars episodes that are entirely forgettable. And one season is over 12 hours long. One season has almost twice the run time of Ahsoka. There's an awful lot of filler there.
 

pukunui

Legend
Throw away line from Ezra in final.

He woke up the Nightsisters. Those boxes there's approximately 4800-5000 in Chimera hold.

They also had lights on them. Not all the lights were blinking.

So there's the possibility the caskets have hibernating Nightsisters.
Dude, I said exactly that upthread! Thrawn woke up the Great Mothers. The Nightsisters went extinct on Dathomir. (The one in Jedi: Fallen Order is the last one.) Thrawn has a bunch of what are most likely cryo-chambers on his ship, and Dathomir is his first stop upon returning to the GFFA. Should be pretty obvious that he made a deal with the Great Mothers. They help him get back to the GFFA, and then he'll help them re-establish themselves on Dathomir.
 

Morrus

Well, that was fun
Staff member
I just don't really see a difference between animation and live action. Moving pictures telling a story are moving pictures telling a story. Apart from in this particular instance, the animation is better.
I guess I can't explain it, but they're as different to me as jazz and 80s power ballads, or cars and boats. They're just not the same thing at all to me. I mean, they're both visual mediums, but so are oil paintings and statues.

Of course one could argue that most live action sci-fi stuff is largely animated these days, but the style of it is (intended to, though not always successfully) match the live action. It's not like it's Who Killed Roger Rabbit?
 

Zardnaar

Legend
Hang on a tick. Let's be fair. A LOT of Clone Wars was less than stellar. Season 1? Not exactly the greatest storytelling ever. There are more than a few Clone Wars episodes that are entirely forgettable. And one season is over 12 hours long. One season has almost twice the run time of Ahsoka. There's an awful lot of filler there.

My wife spent most of season 1 of clone wars on her phone.

Close Wars movie and season 1 CW Ahsoja is also really annoying. Skyguy fml.
 

Zardnaar

Legend
Dude, I said exactly that upthread! Thrawn woke up the Great Mothers. The Nightsisters went extinct on Dathomir. (The one in Jedi: Fallen Order is the last one.) Thrawn has a bunch of what are most likely cryo-chambers on his ship, and Dathomir is his first stop upon returning to the GFFA. Should be pretty obvious that he made a deal with the Great Mothers. They help him get back to the GFFA, and then he'll help them re-establish themselves on Dathomir.

Maybe there's more than one way to awaken stuff;)

You know sonething was calling to Palapatine as well as Baylan?

I'm always dubious about last one claims in Star Wars due to multiple ways in universe of bringing one back. Clones. Stasis. Carbonite freezing, the force, a character lying or being wrong etc.
 

Stalker0

Legend
Andor is one of the best TV shows of the past decade, an instant classic.
Hey I like Andor as much as the next guy, and I do think its one of the best Star Wars tv shows we've had, but this is no where close to true.

This like decade is the literal Golden Age of Television. There has been so much incredible TV content in the last 10 years that Andor probably wouldn't crack the top 50, maybe not even top 100. Its a good show and I enjoy it, but this is the wrong decade to make such a statement:)
 


No, I get that. That's not an unfair criticism. They could have spent a lot more time developing the characters. I think the presumption was that most people who were watching had already been introduced to the characters through the animated shows. It's a tough needle to thread really. Do you assume that the audience knows nothing about the characters and has to be introduced to all of them fresh? Or do you assume that the audience is at least passingly familiar with the characters?

It's a choice.

I have to admit though, I thought most of the episodes could have used about ten more minutes. Why are Disney+ shows 40 (ish) minutes long? It's not like they need to make time for commercial breaks. Add in 10 or 15 minutes to each show and you'd be able to cover pretty much everything.
My view as someone whose actually seen the Clone Wars series and Rebels is that we still didn't learn much about who Ashoka is now. If you don't dwell into her past now too much, tell us more who she is now, how she got there. And I feel that we got very little for the time we spend with her. Or Sabine.
I am not sure they would have needed 10-15 minutes more, or they need the cut to be a bit more efficient so they could have put 10-15 minutes more worth of story in there. Same play-time, more story, more characterization, more fun with Star Wars.
 

Clint_L

Legend
Hey I like Andor as much as the next guy, and I do think its one of the best Star Wars tv shows we've had, but this is no where close to true.

This like decade is the literal Golden Age of Television. There has been so much incredible TV content in the last 10 years that Andor probably wouldn't crack the top 50, maybe not even top 100. Its a good show and I enjoy it, but this is the wrong decade to make such a statement:)
Strongly disagree.
 

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