Mind of tempest
(he/him)advocate for 5e psionics
true I also saw a lot of inquisitor in it but that is its formulation, I equally feel 5e is not truly a big tent but that is beyond what I can do.But that wasn't really the core of the Avenger idea. Yes, there is some connection to it, as I said with Ezio. But the core 4e idea was that the Avengers were not the gods' assassins, but rather their internal police. Less CIA and more FBI: policing heresy, ending subversive infiltration, and keeping the empowered accountable.
And, as stated, making a cloth-wearing heavy weapon user who focuses on dex and has crazy high AC is basically impossible in 5e. Allowing a Zealot Barbarian to use Dex with a greatsword would come relatively close, but every time I've suggested that it's gotten a hugely negative reaction, so I've just accepted that the Avenger is not part of 5e's alleged big tent.
"Clearly non-combat features" are covered by:
As for "fantasies that overlap," I'll need you to be more specific. E.g. the Wizard being able to do everything is out, because that's not good class design. But (for instance) the Wizard and Invoker do overlap in many ways, with the former being somewhat more reckless and scholarly, while the latter is much more party-friendly and very "Moses calling down the plagues," heavy on intuition and proselytizing.
- Various baseline class features (e.g. Bards being able to infinitely multiclass, Wizards getting controls)
- The broad utility and applicability of 4e skills (seriously, skills in 4e are mighty, at least if used as intended)
- Utility powers
- Rituals (and "Martial Practices" which are basically mundane things in the same wheelhouse as rituals)
- Item powers and consumables
- Boons and other forms of magical "reward" that aren't treasures proper
my point is take the psion and the more tricker type wizards how given they play in the same ballpark do you make them distinct?
how do you have a transmuter wizard if everything is built for direct combat?
most of the casters have a lot of sub categories to them how do you make them all feel different, how do you break up the do everything wizard whilst not just making 50 classes?A lot of that tends to be baked into the theme: e.g., ranger as "wilderness warrior" or monk as "mystical martial artist" (or whatever).
Do you have something in mind here? This is a bit vague for me to parse.
the avenger is the hashshashin merge with an inquisitor why would a god need them to heal they are a silent blade, not a warrior or herald?I don’t think the problem is spellcasting. The Avenger wore no armor and couldn’t lay on hands, which makes it tough to fit on the paladin chassis.