D&D General Celestial Dragon Lore

[Chaosmancer]

To get somewhat specific, I'm wondering if there is a celestial equivalent to the Abishai?

I've been mucking about with the Dragon Lore for a long time, and I like having Bahamut and Tiamat as a sort of Yin and Yang, the Abishai are the fiendish servants of Tiamat... but did Bahamut ever get a Celestial counterpart to them? I've done some cursory research and found nothing so far, but I know there is far more hidden in the depths of DnD lore than I can find casually looking.

And, if you don't know of anything like this... how would you go about creating them? Other than just taking Abishai and color/element swapping them.

 

[SkidAce]

I use the dragonborn race as the template for Bahamut's servants. sometime I slap some celestial flavor on them, or add abilities until they are equally as powerful as abishai, or solars etc.

 

[cbwjm]

I think what I'd probably do is look at their role. All of the 5e abishai kind of have a role, black is an assassin, blue a wizard, green a mind controller, white a skirmisher (maybe?), and red a brute.

I can't recall much about the celestial dragons but maybe if you look at what they seemed to excel at, you'll find a similar role that can be assigned to them to help build around.

 

[Chaosmancer]

I think what I'd probably do is look at their role. All of the 5e abishai kind of have a role, black is an assassin, blue a wizard, green a mind controller, white a skirmisher (maybe?), and red a brute.

I can't recall much about the celestial dragons but maybe if you look at what they seemed to excel at, you'll find a similar role that can be assigned to them to help build around.

So, something like a Healer (Gold), a diplomat (Copper), a knight (Silver)... maybe do Brass like a low-level messenger or Anti-Rogue and Bronze as a mage?

 

[EzekielRaiden]

So, something like a Healer (Gold), a diplomat (Copper), a knight (Silver)... maybe do Brass like a low-level messenger or Anti-Rogue and Bronze as a mage?

Sounds good to me. I suggest Avenger (in the 4e style--divine "internal police"), and yeah, Bronze as a sacred-arcana type.

Ironically, that makes for a pretty solid Solar party in Exalted...

 

[cbwjm]

So, something like a Healer (Gold), a diplomat (Copper), a knight (Silver)... maybe do Brass like a low-level messenger or Anti-Rogue and Bronze as a mage?

Yep, I think that would work well.

I also realised that I thought you were talking about the celestial dragons from oriental adventures. But for the metallics, those sound good.

 

[Corinnguard]

You could always model them by converting the Draconal from Pathfinder 1st edition to 5e D&D. Agathion, Draconal – d20PFSRD

 

[Chaosmancer]

You could always model them by converting the Draconal from Pathfinder 1st edition to 5e D&D. Agathion, Draconal – d20PFSRD

I don't know if I would want to convert them directly. Not only does that seem like an incredibly powerful creature, and I would want these to scale just like the Abishai, but I have a hard time with complex statblocks like that from 3.5 and PF. Still, I do like the idea of giving one of them or maybe two of them a paladin like aura, like what that Draconal has.

That could be interesting for the avenger/Anti-Rogue, give them a perception aura like from the Unicorn or Hawk spirits the druid has.