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GVDammerung said:At one of the D&D Q&A seminars at Gencon, the comparison was made that the change from 3x to 4e would be more akin to the change from 1e to 2e than from 2e to 3e. Still, this pushes the rules set further from the 1e baseline. And therein lies the rub.
I got the impression that it was somewhere between, actually. That it was more than the 1E/2E change, but less than the 2E/3E change.
If you started with 3e, no, D&D has likely not jumped the shark with 4e from what we know at this point.
If you started with 1e, yes, D&D has jumped the shark with 4e, from what we know; actually it jumped the shark with 3e.
I strongly, strongly disagree. "Jump the shark" doesn't just mean "change." It means "begin a downhill slide that is never repaired or arrested."
I started with 1E. (Technically with Basic, but I switched after only a few months.) I've been playing, with breaks here and there, ever since. And I do not consider the game to have jumped the shark, either with 3E or what I've heard of 4E.
Further, I don't consider it to have lost very much of what makes D&D D&D. And in fact--again, judging by what I've heard of 4E--I think 4E makes the game more D&D than 3E was. (3E went a little too far back to the game's tactical roots for my taste.)