If the d20 roll for an attack is a 20, the attack hits regardless of any modifiers ar the target's AC. In addition, the attack is a criticai hit, as explained later in this chapter.
Pg. 194 PHB:
If The D20 roll for an Attack is a 20, the Attack hits regardless of any modifiers or the target’s AC. This is called a critical hit.
I don't see how the changed wording in this respect makes any difference to the interpretation of the Champion ability. This is called and in addition, this is do not seem to carry very different meanings.here's what pg 194 said back in the early printings of the PHB that they were discussing:
If the d20 roll for an attack is a 20, the attack hits regardless of any modifiers ar the target's AC. In addition, the attack is a criticai hit, as explained later in this chapter.
Much different than what you quoted.
As you can see, the rule was not clear, and was later changed to what you have quoted. But the people debating in this thread 6-7 years ago didn't have that clarity, so there was discussion.
Thanks for pointing that out! I didn't play 5th edition at that time so I've only ever had the copy that is written the way I quoted!@Algidknight , here's what pg 194 said back in the early printings of the PHB that they were discussing:
Much different than what you quoted.
As you can see, the rule was not clear, and was later changed to what you have quoted. But the people debating in this thread 6-7 years ago didn't have that clarity, so there was discussion.
No ambiguity IMO if a 19 is a critical "hit" that means it hits.I realize that this is a real corner case, but it seems like there is a separation of critical hits and automatic hits in the rules. The rules state that a 20 automatically hits, but it separately states that a critical hit does double damage. Where this gets interesting for me is a case where somebody has an expanded critical range and through high enemy AC and low bonuses rolls a 19 on die but does not meet the enemy's AC.
I think this (difficult to encounter) case is a miss. Does anyone have a different opinion? I entered D&D at the September play test. Have the rules always been this way on this subject in earlier editions?
We already established that later in the thread. This was from 6 years ago before they tightened up the language, and even then I was convinced by others that this was the case.No ambiguity IMO if a 19 is a critical "hit" that means it hits.
For example:
"Beginning when you choose this archetype at 3rd level, your weapon attacks score a critical hit on a roll of 19 or 20."
So a 19 is a critical hit. If they intended it to be a miss they would have worded this differently and said "when you roll a 19 and hit a target ....."