Pathfinder 2E Ditching sacred cows

[Sunseeker]

If PF2 is gonna ditch anything, I'd love to see them get rid of (stat-10)/2=mod.

 

[Tony Vargas]

Maybe make some hallowed cheese (come to think of it, that's quite apt, sooo much cheese), but don't ever consider harming one of the Sacred Cows.

They're, y'know, sacred.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

Thank you.

How much truncated the pyramid is depends on how small the second dice is. If you had a 1d16+1d4 (somehow, probably need electronic dice), the plateau section is much wider.

Yeah, I can work the math. It just never occurred to me to use unequal dice.

 

[Ancalagon]

Yeah, I can work the math. It just never occurred to me to use unequal dice.

I can't remember why I did it - I think I wanted to see what the damage would look like with the extra d4 from the brute subclass? - anyway I was very surprised by the shape of the curve - an intermediate between the pyramid and the flat line of a single dice.

 

[Mark Craddock]

I'd be curious to see if Pathfinder 2E ditches any sacred cows in order to establish an identity more distinct from D&D.

If Erik Mona starts saying this, it's going to trigger more comparisons to DnD 4E.

 

[Shemeska]

The last time anyone went gleefully slaughtering sacred cows, either in terms of rules, rules assumptions, or setting flavor during an edition change that ended very, very poorly. I think that lesson has been learned. Thankfully.

 

[Staffan]

Nah, with 2d10 you still get outliers.
With 1d10+5, the outcome is determined far more by ability and training.

d10 or d20 don't, by themselves, make things more or less swingy. Both have a uniform probability distribution. If you want training/skill/stats to matter more than random chance, you change the proportions - d10+4 versus DC 10 is the same as d20+9 versus DC 20.

If you want things to be less random, you use multiple dice instead, because that centers the probability curve around the central results. With 3d6, for example, you have about a 50% chance of rolling in the 9-12 range, and 2% chance of rolling 17-18.

 

[Ancalagon]

The last time anyone went gleefully slaughtering sacred cows, either in terms of rules, rules assumptions, or setting flavor during an edition change that ended very, very poorly. I think that lesson has been learned. Thankfully.

Well...

By going a bit "old school" 5e was able to retire a few cows on the side...

But ultimately, you can't change everything.

 

[3catcircus]

Ditch class/level and go with a skill-based life path.

Go with a dice pool system - d20 less than attribute+skill points = success. Amount you succeed by adds to effects. Every additional success adds to results.

 

[CubicsRube]

Dont ditch anything! Bring back thaco!