Eldritch Blast and SLA Meta Feats

[Gromnar]

Hi all,

Quick question on Quicken Spell-Like ability and Maximize Spell like ability. I have a level 11 warlock player in my group who wants would like to take one or both of these feats, but I'm a bit confused on how they work. After some research, it would appear that at level 11, a warlock could not quicken an eldritch blast, since their spell level for the ability is 5, and they can only quicken the equivilant of a 1st level spell.

My question is, can the warlock take these feats for their eldritch blast at level 11, and if so, how would they work?

Thanks all!

 

[Dandu]

Read the Complete Arcane errata very carefully.

 

[Dannyalcatraz]

Complete Arcane Errata
Official D&D Updates

Page 7: Eldritch Blast
Second paragraph of the Eldritch Blast ability
description:
Change “An eldritch blast is the equivalent of a spell
whose level is equal to one-half the warlock’s class
level (round down), with a minimum spell level of 1st
and a maximum of 9th when the warlock reaches 18th
level or higher” to “An eldritch blast is the equivalent
of a 1st-level spell. If you apply a blast shape or eldritch
essence invocation to your eldritch blast (see page 130),
your eldritch blast uses the level equivalent of the shape
or essence.”
Any other references to eldritch blast being something
other than the equivalent of a 1st-level spell should be
disregarded.
Any other references claiming that eldritch blast is not
an invocation should be disregarded.
A warlock can use eldritch blast at will.

Page 8: Invocations and Eldritch Blast
Change this section as follows:
Invocations and Eldritch Blast: Eldritch blast is an
invocation. Other invocations provide a warlock with
the ability to modify his eldritch blast or add new
eldritch attacks.

Page 73: Arcane Mastery
You can use this feat even while under stress.

Page 101, 123: Spirit Creatures
For the purposes of the commune with greater spirit,
commune with lesser spirit, greater spirit binding,
lesser spirit binding, spirit binding, spirit needle, and
spirit self spells, a “spirit” or “spirit creature” includes
any of the following creatures: all incorporeal undead,
all fey, all elementals, creatures in astral form or with
astral bodies (but not a creature physically present on
the Astral Plane), all creatures of the spirit subtype (see
Oriental Adventures), spirit folk and telthors (see
Unapproachable East), and spirit creatures created by
spells such as dream sight or wood wose (see Complete
Divine).

Page 121: Ring of Blades
The second sentence of the spell’s description should be
changed as follows: Each round at the end of your turn,
starting the round in which you cast the spell, the blades
deal 1d6 points of damage +1 point per caster level
(maximum +10) to all creatures in the affected area.
Page 189: Epic Warlock
The epic warlock’s eldritch blast damage should be
10d6 at 22nd level, 11d6 at 24th level, and so on.

I'm assuming that you're talking about how it should be considered a spell and not a SLA?

 

[Dozen]

Actually, all invocations are SPAs. And since Eldricht Blast is an Invocation, as stated above, those feats shoud work just fine. I assume this was what Dandu meant.

 

[Ranger19k]

“An eldritch blast is the equivalent of a 1st-level spell. If you apply a blast shape or eldritch essence invocation to your eldritch blast (see page 130),
your eldritch blast uses the level equivalent of the shape or essence.”

The errata changed the EB from being the equivalent of a spell 1/2 the warlock's level, to being just a first level spell. Therefore you can quicken and maximize just fine. The math only comes into play when you start adding on essences, which will still raise the equivalent spell level. So a 11th lvl warlock can quicken an EB no problem, but not a Chained Vitrolic Eldrich Blast.