Ryujin
Legend
That's at least partially because they thought that they had the time to do a slow reveal and character building, which never happened.Serenity does a better job telling the Firefly story in the first 15 minutes than Firefly did.
That's at least partially because they thought that they had the time to do a slow reveal and character building, which never happened.Serenity does a better job telling the Firefly story in the first 15 minutes than Firefly did.
The worst of the Inara stuff never actually made it on screen so far as I can remember and I'm not going to fault anyone for having a terrible idea that never made it past the drawing board. Whedon's an naughty word but not so much so that I can't enjoy projects he's been a part of. I can understand why that turns some people off though. As for the Lost Cause thing, well, is it any worse than other works of fiction where the rebels are portrayed as the good guys? Star Wars comes to mind.I still think it's a very good show, and not to reiterate the points that I put in the OP (and the comments), but it's just hard for me to enjoy with the whole Whedon stuff and Inara stuff and Lost Cause stuff.
I thought 5 was pretty good and would have been an excellent place to end the series. And the Mayor was my favorite Buffy villain. So I'd go with 3 & 5 myself. 6 was terrible though the musical was good and season 7 was just horrible.Even Buffy. I mean- I love Season 6 ... but that's a pretty idiosyncratic opinion. Almost every person (other than me) will tell you that the best two seasons of the show were 3 and 2.
There is a bucket of context that could fill the grand canyon on the differences here. I'll leave it at that.As for the Lost Cause thing, well, is it any worse than other works of fiction where the rebels are portrayed as the good guys? Star Wars comes to mind.
let's consider for a moment. Rebels. Yes, we who hate racism and slavery know gosh dang well the Civil War was absolutely about the South seceding so they could have slaves. period. It's been discussed as its own thread within these hallowed halls even.The worst of the Inara stuff never actually made it on screen so far as I can remember and I'm not going to fault anyone for having a terrible idea that never made it past the drawing board. Whedon's an naughty word but not so much so that I can't enjoy projects he's been a part of. I can understand why that turns some people off though. As for the Lost Cause thing, well, is it any worse than other works of fiction where the rebels are portrayed as the good guys? Star Wars comes to mind.
As for the Lost Cause thing, well, is it any worse than other works of fiction where the rebels are portrayed as the good guys? Star Wars comes to mind.
But I would say that for me, the specific Lost Cause allegories are so glaringly obvious that they take me out of the show.
Also, keep in mind that that 2002 was at a very peak time for a racially sanitized version of the Old West.
Yes.
Look, I'm not going to pillory people who love it. I'm not going to say that it needs to be canceled, or that it is irredeemable, or anything like that. That's not me- after all, I would go to the mat to defend my enjoyment of Lovecraft, even though I fully acknowledge that he was a racist through and through. I think great art is great art- you can enjoy JoJo Rabbit even though it has Hitler.
But I would say that for me, the specific Lost Cause allegories are so glaringly obvious that they take me out of the show.
Yeah, since they're fishing in some old Western tropes, some of those are going to evoke the Confederate South, as is any set of characters in that context where a civil war ended and their side lost. But I think you have to ignore a hell of a lot of the presentation to see it as Lost Cause apologism.