D&D General For the Love of Greyhawk: Why People Still Fight to Preserve Greyhawk

[AdmundfortGeographer]

I just don't think people who don't want to (or don't want to make any effort to) understand something have any place in nuanced discussions about that thing.

Giving out homework lists to participate doesn’t make it a nuanced discussion. It’s just gatekeeping.

 

[Jeff Albertson]

For a while WoTC had exactly the guy - Erik Mona. You'd be hard pressed to find a bigger fan of Greyhawk who was also a top game designer.

Yep, and contributed to one of the best D&D books of all time: Fiendish Codex I: Hordes of the Abyss.

He really brought back the classic D&D/Greyhawk lore and vibe with that one.

I really wish he had been in on PF2 design (I do not reckon Jason Bulmahn, and actively avoid all Logan Bonner design/material).

 

[Jeff Albertson]

In the original Deities & Demigods Fafhrd had a couple of cleric levels, as well as fighter and thief.

No he doesn't, he's a Bard 5/Ranger 15/Thief 13.

 

[Coroc]

No he doesn't, he's a Bard 5/Ranger 15/Thief 13.

Also @Paul Farquhar
It might be some later source, I think I can also remember reading him having some cleric levels somewhere.

 

[Paul Farquhar]

Also @Paul Farquhar
It might be some later source, I think I can also remember reading him having some cleric levels somewhere.

I don't know, maybe I dreamt it, but I'm sure I saw him with cleric levels somewhere, and a reference to the story where he becomes a cleric (temporarily). I don't know where it could have been if not Deities & Demigods though.

 

[Jeff Albertson]

I don't know, maybe I dreamt it, but I'm sure I saw him with cleric levels somewhere, and a reference to the story where he becomes a cleric (temporarily). I don't know where it could have been if not Deities & Demigods though.

Maybe a 2nd Ed iteration, I will check when I can dig in.

Deities & Demigods is my favourite D&D book of all time (of course the Cthulhu/Melnibonean one), but some of the classes and levels they assign to heroes is outrageous.

I mean Elric is: Assassin 10/Cleric 10/Druid 5/Fighter 15/Illusionist 10/Magic-User 19.

Ha, padding the job just to represent an ability, skill, spell or what-have-you.

Man, I love Jeff Dee's art.

 

[Paul Farquhar]

Maybe a 2nd Ed iteration, I will check when I can dig in.

Think they where removed from the reprint Deities & Demigods. My copy was definitely the first one, with Cthulhu in.

 

[Voadam]

Fafhrd is a ranger thief bard as well in 2e Legends & Lore and both the 1e and 2e Lankhmar City books.

 

[Jeff Albertson]

Think they where removed from the reprint Deities & Demigods. My copy was definitely the first one, with Cthulhu in.

Again, no, they were left in the 1st Ed reprint, and the later retitled Legends & Lore; I am thinking of Lankhmar: City of Adventure or something.

 

[Jeff Albertson]

Fafhrd is a ranger thief bard as well in 2e Legends & Lore and both the 1e and 2e Lankhmar City books.

There you have it (mine is currently packed away).