D&D (2024) How is Flex still a thing?

[Horwath]

I know it's a playtest and all that, but how they have kept the most hated Mastery in this document as well.

You could say that it has some logic that worse weapon property(Versatile), if we can even call it a property, is paired with worst Mastery.
But this is just an insult to injury.

How can anyone look at Flail/Morningstar, or even Trident, and say, nah, I'm fine with Longsword/Warpick/warhammer?

Or better yet, I'll be Dex based and take Rapier+Vex


Do all at WotC hate STR based characters? Especially sword+board? They removed -5/+10 from GWM, and rightfully so. Now buff up all STR based melee weapons. One damage die bump across the board would do the trick.

 

[Charlaquin]

It’s there for the folks who’s eyes glaze over when they look at all the masteries and their effects and ask the DM “uhh… Is there one that just lets me do more damage?”

 

[Seramus]

I crave one that just says "You deal 1d8+1 with any weapon you wield."

Dagger? Gauntlet? Darts? Chairs? Anything you want to have your character use gets enabled.

 

[Gladius Legis]

Pretty sure they haven't had the opportunity to revise weapon mastery yet. All of it is as it was in the previous doc.

 

[Horwath]

It’s there for the folks who’s eyes glaze over when they look at all the masteries and their effects and ask the DM “uhh… Is there one that just lets me do more damage?”

If those weapons started at 1d10(V 1d12), then I would not mind the Flex mastery.
Getting 1d12 1Handed damage would be nice counter part to Rapier 1d8 finesse+Vex combo.

 

[Sulicius]

If those weapons started at 1d10(V 1d12), then I would not mind the Flex mastery.
Getting 1d12 1Handed damage would be nice counter part to Rapier 1d8 finesse+Vex combo.

Literally the only time I got to playtest the last packet, the fighter picked flex because they wanted a simple option.

There's dozens of them! And I am happy there is a choice for them.

 

[Vaalingrade]

It’s there for the folks who’s eyes glaze over when they look at all the masteries and their effects and ask the DM “uhh… Is there one that just lets me do more damage?”

"Technically more damage. The best kind of more damage."

 

[Vael]

This is a straight reprint of the Mastery feature, so there's been no iteration on its design, merely allowing other classes access to it. This is like complaining they didn't fix the Warlock.

 

[mellored]

Pretty sure they haven't had the opportunity to revise weapon mastery yet. All of it is as it was in the previous doc.

This.

It got enough overall votes to stay in. But they didn't have the time to go though the individual feedback.

Also, while it is the weakest option. It's not exactly unplayable. You're not going to get your party killed or anything.

 

[Sulicius]

This.

It got enough overall votes to stay in. But they didn't have the time to go though the individual feedback.

Also, while it is the weakest option. It's not exactly unplayable. You're not going to get your party killed or anything.

A lot of people get offended by suboptimal choices for some reason. Especially if it is, gasp, simple.

You’re right that it’s totally fine. There had to be a weakest one, just like there is a strongest one.