Iron Lore: Malhavoc's Surprise?

[Capellan]

it's interesting to see that the Man-at-Arms actually gets to choose any 3 skill groups to have access in. It might be that the MaA is a more flexible class than we had first thought.

It's the most flexible class in the game.

As far as the knowledge skills go -- the wording in the last version I saw was slightly different to what was suggested by Mike's post on the matter. It was still easier than D&D to get multiple knowledge types, but it wasn't a free bonus from getting more ranks.

 

[Dr. Strangemonkey]

As far as the knowledge skills go -- the wording in the last version I saw was slightly different to what was suggested by Mike's post on the matter. It was still easier than D&D to get multiple knowledge types, but it wasn't a free bonus from getting more ranks.

There've been issues with that before. I think a lot of the preview stuff was written well in advance of its post date and sometimes well in advance of the completion of the book. It's annoying but it testifies to the level at which they are dedicated to refining these concepts.

 

[bolen]

does this have a release date

 

[Nifelhein]

Iron heroes is said to be 1st of August for print book and 25th of July for the pdf, or so the webpages of monte cook, white wolf and drivethru rpg say. As for mastering iron heroes, monte's page says pdf next month, print in october...

 

[A'koss]

It's the most flexible class in the game.

I kinda got that impression early on, but I assumed the MaA was little more than the generic fighter you used when you didn't want to have to deal with Tokens. I think I've read somewhere that he has some kind of special abilities with a shield. But more and more I get the sense that you can build the MaA to fill many different roles - stealth, tactics, front-line work, etc. but just not to the extent of the other specialist classes.

does this have a release date

They have conflicting release dates on their website but it will be either on July 28th or August 1st. The ebook might be release earlier - July 25th if you're looking for that.

Cheers!

 

[wizofice]

They have conflicting release dates on their website but it will be either on July 28th or August 1st. The ebook might be release earlier - July 25th if you're looking for that.

Cheers!

I have it on pretty good authority that it is August 1st for both the PDF and Print versions. Expect to see the July dates changed soon.

~Saucy Liege

 

[A'koss]

I have it on pretty good authority that it is August 1st for both the PDF and Print versions. Expect to see the July dates changed soon.

Thanks for the heads-up Wisofice. Do you know if the follow-up releases are still geared to release the ebook versions a couple of months before seeing print?

 

[wizofice]

Thanks for the heads-up Wisofice. Do you know if the follow-up releases are still geared to release the ebook versions a couple of months before seeing print?

Not yet, but I'll look into it.

EDIT:

Mastering Iron Heroes hits in PDF in early August (October print release). November 2005 for the Bestiary PDF (January print release).

 

[Staffan]

Thanks for the heads-up Wisofice. Do you know if the follow-up releases are still geared to release the ebook versions a couple of months before seeing print?

That's SOP for Malhavoc. They write/edit/layout/whatever the stuff, create PDF, send stuff to printer, sell PDF while the printer is doing its stuff, and when the stuff is printed they start selling the printed books as well. The main exceptions have been early stuff (before Monte had any plans of going to print with his stuff - I think that's pretty much just the original Book of Eldritch Might), Arcana Unearthed (where Monte released incomplete excerpts books at first, and didn't release the full thing as a PDF until about a year later - I think it was around the time of the DRM debacle), Arcana Evolved (simultaneous release), and now Iron Heroes (simultaneous).

 

[Dr. Strangemonkey]

I have it on pretty good authority that it is August 1st for both the PDF and Print versions. Expect to see the July dates changed soon.

~Saucy Liege

There are now two July Dates on the product page, the 25th and the 28th, and one August date.

The second July date is in red letters and at the top, in case that reduces the confusion, and it claims to be for both the print and e-book release.

The July 25th date is beneath the picture and for the .pdf release date.

The August 1st date is beneath the picture and for the print release date.

I'm really only interested in .pdf at this point, but that doesn't make me any less confused, but still hopeful that something's out next week when I will desperately need the distraction.

From previously looking at the page, the August 1st date is oldest, the July 25th second newest, and the July 28th date most recent.