Is World of Warcraft creating a desire for more role-playing in D&D?

[LostSoul]

The social encounter system might lead to some of the same arguments we have now about Diplomacy and Bluff and how they should be used, but for those really interested in roleplaying, it is a lot easier to de-emphasize or ignore those rules than it is to create a houserule system for groups looking for a more mechanical means to handling social encounters.

Talking in-character has little to do with how encounters are resolved.

In other words: if you use dice to resolve social encounters, it doesn't mean you don't talk in-character.

In my experience, good social resolution systems lead to more social encounters, which in turn leads to more role-playing (talking in-character).

 

[redmagerush]

Talking in-character has little to do with how encounters are resolved.

In other words: if you use dice to resolve social encounters, it doesn't mean you don't talk in-character.

In my experience, good social resolution systems lead to more social encounters, which in turn leads to more role-playing (talking in-character).

I agree here. Pretty much all of the lauded "story games" from the Forge and such have very in-depth mechanics for dealing with with social conflicts and these games are considered the pinnacle of "true role-playing" and story telling.

 

[Driddle]

So, what do you think? Is World of Warcraft actually good for roleplaying in D&D?

Nope. It's creating monster players.

That doesn't apply to anyone on this message board, of course. I'm talking about everyone else who plays Ww. No one here.

 

[Whizbang Dustyboots]

Enough with the broad slams, please. It doesn't add anything at best, and is an explicit violation of forum rules at worst.

 

[Driddle]

Question asked and answered, with exceptions clearly noted.

 

[Whizbang Dustyboots]

Question asked and answered, with exceptions clearly noted.

"Everyone who plays WoW sucks, except for the people who post on ENWorld" is gaming the forum rules and is wildly insulting to posters' spouses, children, parents, roommates and friends.

 

[Driddle]

"Everyone who plays WoW sucks, except for the people who post on ENWorld" is gaming the forum rules and is wildly insulting to posters' spouses, children, parents, roommates and friends.

OK, OK now, Whiz. Just calm down. Not only did you misquote me (using quote marks), you broadly misinterpreted my comment:

Nope. It's creating monster players.

Monster Players -- players who are all about killing monsters and nothing else. Not roleplayers.

I don't know why you had to make this a personal attack. Let's just back off and assume a more neutral perspective, OK?

 

[Cadfan]

The thing that WoW most contributes to D&D is yet another target for gamer-prejudice. Which is the worst kind of prejudice, because its so absurdly, ridiculously, incredibly trite. If you're going to rot your soul, at least rot it in a way that matters.

 

[Whizbang Dustyboots]

Monster Players -- players who are all about killing monsters and nothing else. Not roleplayers.

I don't know why you had to make this a personal attack. Let's just back off and assume a more neutral perspective, OK?

The fact that you intentionally excluded anyone who posts at ENWorld says that you knew it was an inflammatory and insulting remark, but you just didn't want to deal with getting a red text talking-to because of it. Either commit to insulting millions of people or don't make the insult at all, preferably the latter.

 

[Hussar]

Monster Players -- players who are all about killing monsters and nothing else. Not roleplayers.

So, everyone who played D&D from about 1975-1984 were not role players?