Knockdown + Hold the line

[brun]

I don't have the books on hand, but I was thinking about it for some time.

Is the combination of knockdown and hold the line the perfect charge-breaking combination?

Basically, what happens if, with the attack of opportunity granted against a charging opponent, you score ennough damage to and make him fall?

 

[Mr Fidgit]

you roll the trip attempt. knockdown works whenever you do 10_ points of damage

 

[brun]

Yes, but once the opponent is tripped, what then? Does he still get to act?

 

[Mr Fidgit]

i'd have to say no, not that round. a charge is a full attack action (or full round), and it was the charge that provoked the AoO. he's done 'til next round

 

[brun]

That's what I thought. So the combination really is powerful, especially since my DM has the habbit of making every single ennemy charge at us (or partial charge).

 

[Mr Fidgit]

your opponents still have a chance to avoid the trip (opposed rolls) and complete the charge, but it is a wicked combo!

 

[Zaruthustran]

Yeah, nice combo. But note that you could just take your HTL AoO as a trip attack. Of course, you run the risk of being counter-tripped...

-z

 

[Jondor_Battlehammer]

I would say that he still gets his action that round, but since his charge was disrupted, he would not get the +2 to hit, nor any bonus that apply to the charge, such as Dire Charge. I would say that he retains his -2 AC. Add that to the fact that he is also now prone, and cannot even attempt to get up till next round, and you still have a hell of a combo.

 

[Corlon]

I don't have the books on hand, but I was thinking about it for some time.

Is the combination of knockdown and hold the line the perfect charge-breaking combination?

Basically, what happens if, with the attack of opportunity granted against a charging opponent, you score ennough damage to and make him fall?

What is hold the line???

 

[Xarlen]

Realize that it'd take 4 feats to accomplish this little combo, so I think it's fair enough.