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(limited) wish plus grapple

Bad Paper

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1) I cast limited wish to give me a bonus on this next grapple check. How much bonus do I get?
2) I cast wish to give me a bonus on this next grapple check. How much bonus do I get?
3) I cast limited wish to give me a bonus on all grapple checks. How much bonus do I get?
4) I cast wish to give me a bonus on all grapple checks. How much bonus do I get?
 

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Zandel

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1 ~ around +20 ish
2 ~ around +40 ish
3 ~ around +4 ish
4 ~ around +8 ish

That's about what i'd say without any research
 

shilsen

Adventurer
Bad Paper said:
1) I cast limited wish to give me a bonus on this next grapple check. How much bonus do I get?
2) I cast wish to give me a bonus on this next grapple check. How much bonus do I get?
3) I cast limited wish to give me a bonus on all grapple checks. How much bonus do I get?
4) I cast wish to give me a bonus on all grapple checks. How much bonus do I get?

Since Limited Wish has the option of letting a creature hit automatically with its next attack, I'd say both Limited Wish and Wish should allow automatic success on one grapple check. For multiple grapple checks, something like Zandel's suggested +4 with Limited Wish and +8 with Wish sounds good, but I'd set a duration limit of 1 rd/lvl or so.
 

Zandel

First Post
Dam! forgot about the instant hit thing......revised

1 ~ instant hit once
2 ~ Instant hit next two
3 ~ +2 Wish bonus with permanent duration or +5 Wish bonus with 1 round/level (mabye 2)
4 ~ +4 Wish bonus with permanent duration or +10 Wish bonus with 1 round/level (mabye 2)

Calling them wish bonuses is so they won't stack.
 



Scion

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I just looked around for effects of the appropriate level (level 5 and below for limited wish) and I think it would depend on the caster level.

Going by the effect I am thinking of it would be +4 enhancement bonus to grapple checks +2 for every 4 caster levels beyond the first. (so a 17th level caster would get +12 to grapple checks) for a duration of 1 round/caster level with the option of reducing the bonus by +2 in order to double the duration.

For wish I would likely give the caster an enhancement bonus to grapple checks equal to their caster level for 24 hours, along with the ability to spend a swift action each round to negate any free action like effects that the guy they are trying to hold might have (caster level check vs caster level check).

I think that these would be along the lines of the spells being used.
 

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