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Magical armor bonuses to AC

Diirk

First Post
3d6 said:
The point of my thread is that armor with an enhancement bonus gives you an enhancement bonus to AC.

Thus, magic vestment gives you an enhancement bonus to AC, which stacks with the armor bonus to AC provided by mage armor. Different bonus types always stack.

While the first part is true, the enhancement bonus to ac enhances the armour, not the character. This distinction becomes important when your character is wearing bracers of armour +4 and leather armour +3. Now while the first is an armour bonus and the 2nd provides 2 armour and 3 armour enhancement, you CAN NOT apply that 3 armour enchancement to the +4 from the bracers. It only applies to the +2 from the leather. So your total armour is +5, not +7.

Similarly, if you cast mage armour and magic vestment, the 2 wouldn't stack as the armour enhancement from magic vestment would apply to your armour (or shirt, robes etc if you aren't wearing armour), not your mage armour spell. Thus you would simply take the better of the two... mage armour's +4, or magic vestment's armour + 1/4 CL (simply 1/4 CL for clothing).

Edit: Normally I take these with a bag of salt, but this article isn't too bad at a quick glance: http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/rg/20040127a
 
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isoChron

First Post
Well it' called enhancement bonus. Enhance something and it gets better. But if there isn't anything you can enhance it doesn't work (That's why cloth are taken as armor with armor 0 for the spell magic vestment). That may be the reason why bracers of armor have an armor bonus, not an enhancement bonus. Enhancement bonus to AC only enhance the armor/shield, not the character.
You can enhance a chain shirt worn by yourself with magic vestment and then take it off and give it to your fighter buddy. You lose immidiatly all armor from chainshirt and the enhancement bonuses on that item. Your fighter buddy now wears an enhanced chainshirt.

If the enhancement bonus would apply to character, the chainshirt would lose it's enhancement bonus from magic vestment as soon as you drop it. But the target is Armor or shield not creature, caster, or any object.
 

3d6

Explorer
So, I repeat, does anyone have a quote from an actual rulebook that even implies that the enhancement bonus of a magical suit of armor or magical shield is applied to that armor or sheild's armor or shield bonus to AC?
 

cantrip

Explorer
Will this do?
Glossary said:
enhancement bonus
A bonus that represents an increase in the sturdiness and/or effectiveness of armor or natural armor, or the effectiveness of a weapon, or a general bonus to an ability score. Multiple enhancement bonuses on the same object (in the case of armor and weapons), creature (in the case of natural armor), or ability score do not stack. Only the highest enhancement bonus applies. Since enhancement bonuses to armor or natural armor effectively increase the armor or natural armor's bonus to AC, they don't apply against touch attacks.

Source: PHB
 

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