billd91 said:
Everybody making claims about the environment are generally seeing things through a lens of their own edition being the victim, of their fellow edition fans as being generally reasonable, the other game's fans not. And I think, because of confirmation bias, people particularly tend to miss when their own favorite game's fans are being unreasonable.
This is how I see it too. Unfortunate, but likely true.
Mournblade94 said:
Its like 4e marketing pulled a reverse brainwashing on people.
Dang.
I see this all over this thread and other places. A few weeks ago I did a search, looking through all the prerelease WOTC 4e threads, their marketing stuff, listened to podcasts and read the writer blogs (again).
This. Just. Plain. Didn't. Happen.
What DID happen though, is that some posters misquoted or misinterpreted what was said, and/or their perceptions about 3.x, 4e or whatever clouded their opinion about the marketing and they read between the lines and added a bunch of stuff that just wasn't there.
I still ask anyone to find out where they did anything more than point out some of the (relatively common) concerns with 3.x.
Yes, they changed cosmology, and even questioned the necessity for certain parts of the Great Wheel and some of the planes that had limited playability. But never said that 3.x sucks or that they hated it. Heck, they PLAYED it for years, wrote big sections of it and even built careers on it.
These were guys in the know that had ideas for new edition changes and then talked up these changes. As expected.