Hypersmurf
Moderatarrrrh...
Sorry kreynolds, your wrong in this instance.
While I agree, I'll point out that kreynolds is perfectly aware of how it worked in 3.0 - as in, exactly the way that we're arguing.
He is highlighting a change in the wording in 3.5 which could be read to mean what he's saying.
I don't have the books, so I can't follow through all the steps... but let's make sure that we're not simply throwing the 3,0 answer that we all know is true at him, without checking how it's changed...
-Hyp.