Ranger action question

[disgruntledarcher]

At lvl 7, a ranger (had he taken the archery path) obtains the Manyshot feat as well as his first second attack. Rapid Shot allows the character an additional shot per round ( with a penalty to hit) as a free action. correct? Manshot allows to draw an additional arrow per shot as a standard action, with a penalty to hit. A second a attack constitutes as a move action, right? My question: can you combine the manyshot feat with the rapid shot ability and still use your second attack, resulting in five arrows per round?
(2 arrows[ RS and MS] + 2 arrows[ RS and MS] + 1 arrow[ 2nd attk])

 

[Ankh-Morpork Guard]

I don't think they can. My books aren't with me, but I believe Rapid Shot requires you to take a Full Round Action...

 

[Hypersmurf]

I don't think they can. My books aren't with me, but I believe Rapid Shot requires you to take a Full Round Action...

Right. Manyshot can't be part of a Full Attack action, and Rapid Shot can only be part of a Full Attack action, so the only way you can do both in the same round is if you're a Choker.

-Hyp.

 

[disgruntledarcher]

Choker?

 

[Liquidsabre]

A small aberration, naked halfling with tentacles uh...never mind. You don't want to know.

 

[Ankh-Morpork Guard]

A small aberration, naked halfling with tentacles uh...never mind. You don't want to know.

Never ever describe a choker like that. Sounds very disturbing...

 

[Lord Pendragon]

Choker?

The Choker's Quickness ability allows it to mimic 3.0 haste. So you could Rapid Shot as part of your Full Attack action, then use your remaining action to make a Manyshot as well. Basically, the two feats cannot be combined, but the Choker's Quickness gives it enough actions to perform each separately, in the same round.

 

[UltimaGabe]

I suppose a Mithral Golem's alacrity ability would allow the same thing, but that's beside the point.

 

[Darklone]

At lvl 7, a ranger (had he taken the archery path) obtains the Manyshot feat as well as his first second attack. Rapid Shot allows the character an additional shot per round ( with a penalty to hit) as a free action. correct? Manshot allows to draw an additional arrow per shot as a standard action, with a penalty to hit. A second a attack constitutes as a move action, right? My question: can you combine the manyshot feat with the rapid shot ability and still use your second attack, resulting in five arrows per round?
(2 arrows[ RS and MS] + 2 arrows[ RS and MS] + 1 arrow[ 2nd attk])

1. Rangers do get these abilities (BAB +6/+1, Manyshot) at level 6.
2. Additional attacks are not move actions. Either you take a standard action and a move action or you take a full attack or full round action plus perhaps a 5ft step. These can usually not be combined.

 

[Liquidsabre]

Never ever describe a choker like that. Sounds very disturbing...

Dude, read the creature description in the 3.5MM, I was but quoting... *shudder*