Roman Bloodline?

[Benjamin Olson]

Various Emperors thinned out the noble families as well.

Most definitely.

 

[MGibster]

Go big or go home, I say. I'm a direct descendant of Aeneas who was one of the few Trojans not killed when the fabled walls of Ilium fell.

 

[Zardnaar]

I remember looking into this at some point (I was a classics major who then got a history MA focusing on Medieval and Early Modern Europe, so it kind of went with the territory). I think I recall that there is a claim that the British royal family can trace lineage back to a specific Roman senator, and I'm sure various noble families make comparable claims, but at the end of the day there simply aren't any reliable supports for the claims, and they are exactly the sort of pseudohistorical claims a scholarly courtier creating a genealogy to flatter some noble or monarch would have embellished or invented, and exactly the sort that they almost could not possibly have found reliable documentary evidence for.

What I can say, is that the Roman nobility, to which most of the most famous Romans belonged, disproportionately died out. It was a society that had wealth qualifications for nobility, looked down upon making money by any means other than inherited wealth, and divided estates equally amongst children. Thus noble families seem to have typically tried to confine themselves to one or two children, lest the estate be divided up too far to maintain noble status, but in a pre-modern society where people often die unexpectedly and medicine can do little for infertility it's only a matter of so many generations until that strategy reaches a dead-end.

Practically everyone with an ounce of European blood probably has some ancient Roman ancestors at this point, but disproportionately few famous Romans have living descendants.

What do youvthink of link in my OP about the east. I've only got a minor in classics and it's been a while.

 

[QuentinGeorge]

What do youvthink of link in my OP about the east. I've only got a minor in classics and it's been a while.

Linking the Bagratoni dynasty to Mark Antony is highly speculative and the author even admits to not having evidence.

 

[QuentinGeorge]

Most definitely.

The bigger issue is that the Roman Empire did not really function as a hereditary monarchy. Most dynasties barely lasted two or three rulers. Commodus is highly unusual for actually succeeding his biological father.

 

[Zardnaar]

Linking the Bagratoni dynasty to Mark Antony is highly speculative and the author even admits to not having evidence.

That was my take. I was wondering I anyone else had better information.

 

[Zardnaar]

The bigger issue is that the Roman Empire did not really function as a hereditary monarchy. Most dynasties barely lasted two or three rulers. Commodus is highly unusual for actually succeeding his biological father.

Wasn't just Rome but a lot of their contemporaries as well. Hell we laugh at feudalism but it was actually an improvement.

I think the crisis of the third century was fatal just took a while to finish them off but revival may have been possible as late as 450/60's.

 

[Dioltach]

Roman bloodline refers to the lineage or ancestry of individuals with connections to ancient Rome or its descendants. It often refers to individuals who can trace their family roots back to ancient Roman civilization. The concept of bloodline in ancient Rome held significance, as it influenced social status, inheritance, and political power. While the specific bloodline of ancient Romans may not have persisted in its purest form over the centuries, there are individuals and families today who can trace their heritage back to ancient Rome. Exploring Roman history and genealogy can provide fascinating insights into the interconnectedness of cultures and the legacy of ancient civilizations.

Thanks, ChatGPT! We'd never have known otherwise.

 

[QuentinGeorge]

Roman bloodline refers to the lineage or ancestry of individuals with connections to ancient Rome or its descendants. It often refers to individuals who can trace their family roots back to ancient Roman civilization. The concept of bloodline in ancient Rome held significance, as it influenced social status, inheritance, and political power. While the specific bloodline of ancient Romans may not have persisted in its purest form over the centuries, there are individuals and families today who can trace their heritage back to ancient Rome. Exploring Roman history and genealogy can provide fascinating insights into the interconnectedness of cultures and the legacy of ancient civilizations.

Thanks for a totally not at all AI generated post there.

 

[delericho]

Go big or go home, I say. I'm a direct descendant of Aeneas who was one of the few Trojans not killed when the fabled walls of Ilium fell.

Impressive.

At least one of my ancestors, on my mother's side, is fictional.