Spellfire ? (my players stay out yo)

[hammymchamham]

This means you Joe and Jarrod:





Ok



If a Spellfire user becomes undead that keeps its feats, say due to lichdom or by becomming a vampire, should I use Charisma to determine how many points of Spellfire can be used? Has this been clarified by anyone? Or would this make a nice question for the Sage?

 

[Darklone]

Usually I'd say yes.... since you should use Charisma if there's no Constitution...

 

[Robbert Raets]

This is a perfect question for the Sage... And be sure to post any replies he gives you here.

 

[Garmorn]

If a Spellfire user becomes undead that keeps its feats, say due to lichdom or by becomming a vampire, should I use Charisma to determine how many points of Spellfire can be used? Has this been clarified by anyone? Or would this make a nice question for the Sage?

My two cents worth: No. Charisma is used only for Fortude Save when required. Spellfire is affected by CN bonus just like HP. Since an undead's HP are not affected their chrisma bonus, neither should spellfire or any similar ability.

 

[kreynolds]

Re: Re: Spellfire ? (my players stay out yo)

Charisma is used only for Fortude Save when required.

Corrupt spells cause Charisma damage to undead casters when they would normally deal Constitution damage. A master of shround's summoning use limitation is based on its Charisma modifier (special abilities are usually based on Constitution modifiers). How long an undead barbarian rages is based upon its Charisma modifier. Last, but not least, from the FAQ...

An undead creature uses its Charisma modifier wherever its
Constitution modifier would normally apply (except Fortitude
saving throws, for which the creature must use its +0
Constitution modifier if it needs to make a Fortitude save at
all).

...the other stuff was in the FAQ as well.

 

[hammymchamham]

Hasnt it been clarified that Undead Barbarians use Charisma to determine how long they rage as well?

 

[Ravellion]

Psionic undead use Charisma for their Constitution powers as well as their charisma powers. Phwoar!

Rav

 

[kreynolds]

Hasnt it been clarified that Undead Barbarians use Charisma to determine how long they rage as well?

Echo?

 

[Robbert Raets]

So, bar a Wizards employee running in here with a gun, the answer is yes.