Survivor Appendix N Authors- LEIBER WINS!

[Maxperson]

Bellairs, John 13
Burroughs, Edgar Rice 16
Carter, Lin 14
de Camp & Pratt 11
Dunsany, Lord 17
Fox, Gardner 15
Leiber, Fritz 21
Merritt, A. 18
Offutt, Andrew J. 14
Pratt, Fletcher 12
St. Clair, Margaret 13
Tolkien, J.R.R. 15
Wellman, Manley Wade 16
Williamson, Jack 18
Zelazny, Roger 19

 

[lowkey13]

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[Maxperson]

Absolutely. Tolkien is much too classy to write a story about an old man telling a party to go on an adventure to kill the dragon and claim its gold.

The dragon didn't have any gold. The dwarves, elves and humans did, though. They just had to kill the thief that took it.

Or about a group that happens upon a group of trolls, kills them, find their treasure and uses the random magical items they found there for the rest of the adventure.

The group happened upon the trolls, got caught, and were going to be eaten. Good thing the DMPC showed up and saved the day.

 

[Parmandur]

Bellairs, John 13
Burroughs, Edgar Rice 15
Carter, Lin 14
de Camp & Pratt 11
Dunsany, Lord 17
Fox, Gardner 15
Leiber, Fritz 21
Merritt, A. 18
Offutt, Andrew J. 14
Pratt, Fletcher 12
St. Clair, Margaret 13
Tolkien, J.R.R. 14
Wellman, Manley Wade 16
Williamson, Jack 18
Zelazny, Roger 19

 

[rczarnec]

Bellairs, John 13
Burroughs, Edgar Rice 16
Carter, Lin 14
de Camp & Pratt 11
Dunsany, Lord 17
Fox, Gardner 15
Leiber, Fritz 21
Merritt, A. 18
Offutt, Andrew J. 14
Pratt, Fletcher 12
St. Clair, Margaret 13
Tolkien, J.R.R. 12
Wellman, Manley Wade 16
Williamson, Jack 18
Zelazny, Roger 19

 

[Parmandur]

True in my case, and comments in this thread have convinced my that "liking Tolkien too much" is a problem.

Really, as stated previously, this thread is more proof how underrated Tolkien is as an author. Every down vote proves that hypothesis.

 

[Maxperson]

I'm downvoting Tolkien because Gary Gygax consistently (militantly?) argued that D&D's foundational inspiration came from other sources. D&D borrows a lot from Tolkien, but I think the idea that 'killing monsters and looting their gold is a path to personal advancement and world influence' (as codified in every edition of D&D's rules) is pretty clearly at odds with Tolkien's views. D&D systems incentivize PCs to play out a picaresque not an epic struggle of good against evil, even though my table or yours may prefer the latter.

Seriously dude? Chainmail, the foundation for D&D literally had Balrogs, Ents, elves, dwarves and Hobbits and you think Tolkien wasn't an inspiration for the foundation? The fact that Tolkien's world wasn't about killing creatures for their loot isn't relevant to whether or not Tolkien was a huge inspiration. Inspiration does not equate to mirroring exactly. If it did, it wouldn't be inspiration, it would be plagiarism.

 

[Blue]

Bellairs, John 11
Burroughs, Edgar Rice 16
Carter, Lin 14
de Camp & Pratt 11
Dunsany, Lord 17
Fox, Gardner 15
Leiber, Fritz 21
Merritt, A. 18
Offutt, Andrew J. 14
Pratt, Fletcher 12
St. Clair, Margaret 13
Tolkien, J.R.R. 12
Wellman, Manley Wade 16
Williamson, Jack 18
Zelazny, Roger 20

 

[Maxperson]

Really, as stated previously, this thread is more proof how underrated Tolkien is as an author. Every down vote proves that hypothesis.

People misperceived the whole email thing and are now guilty of the thing they thought was happening. They have banded together to downvote Tolkien, where nobody truly banded together to upvote him. I find it ironic and amusing.

 

[Parmandur]

People misperceived the whole email thing and are now guilty of the thing they thought was happening. They have banded together to downvote Tolkien, where nobody truly banded together to upvote him. I find it ironic and amusing.

I know, right?