Touch of Golden Ice

[mcgeedis]

The feat description states that evil creatures that are touched and fail their save take initial damage of 1d6 and secondary damage of 2d6. So, other than the loss of AC and a creature losing it's ranged/finesse bonus to attack, what other consequences does a character or creature suffer from having a low Dex?

 

[Infiniti2000]

Lower reflex save. If the Dex gets to 0, they cannot move and become helpless.

 

[Darklone]

One might be inclined to change the creatures initiative.

 

[Thanee]

Isn't a lower AC good enough already?

Bye
Thanee

 

[iceifur]

Though, point of note, the Dex damage from Golden Ice is actually worse than 1d6/2d6. Check the paragraphs under the Ravages and Afflictions tables. You add the evil creature's Charisma bonus to the ability damage dealt (both initial and secondary), and you then add even more ability damage if the creature is an evil undead, evil outsider, or an evil cleric of an evil deity.

Nothing like slamming a Succubus for 1d6+10 Dex every time she fails a save, let alone the additional 2d6+10 Dex if she fails another a minute later. With a Dex of only 13, the initial damage from the first failed save will (on average) take her down to 0 Dex, and therefore out of the fight.

So, yeah ... I don't really think you need any additional effects.

 

[Thanee]

Though, point of note, the Dex damage from Golden Ice is actually worse than 1d6/2d6. Check the paragraphs under the Ravages and Afflictions tables. You add the evil creature's Charisma bonus to the ability damage dealt (both initial and secondary), and you then add even more ability damage if the creature is an evil undead, evil outsider, or an evil cleric of an evil deity.

Wow!

Guess I always missed that part, too.

Bye
Thanee

 

[mcgeedis]

All good points. The main reason why I am asking is that out of the many things that I have read, it seems that Touch of Golden Ice is one of the best feats from BoED. I want to make sure I understand it's full potential.


If you have a negative Dexterity modifier, does that count against your AC?

 

[Thanee]

Yep. Just look up the Gelatinous Cube for an example.

Bye
Thanee

 

[IanB]

Depending on your own interpretation of the rules for prerequisites, feats that have dex requirements, and thus class features of prestige classes that require said feats as prerequisites could also be lost.

Not a big fan of that myself, it gets complicated.

 

[EvilPheemy]

Another reason not to eat the Yellow Snow.