True Necromancer - Good, Bad, thoughts?

[welby]

For a PC, is the True Necromancer a viable, balanced class? Is there a way to satisfy the prereqs without being a 5wiz/5clr, and if so would it still be balanced?

Thanks

 

[NilesB]

No, it's really really weak.

wiz3/clr3/myt2

You'd be better off with more Mystic Theurge.

One level is occasionally worthwhile but just about never any more.

 

[welby]

You'd be better off with more Mystic Theurge.

I thought about taking MT, but I would lose the ability to rebuke undead with any sort of effectivenesss, correct?

I thought the true necro looked week, but might not be so bad if I didn't have to split so many levels between cleric and arcane. There has to be a cool necromancer PC out there.

 

[Felix]

"Necromancy" actually means Divining the future through speaking with the dead. So I would think you could have a good "Necromancer" using a Diviner specialist with Spell Focus and Greater Spell Focus (necromancy). Then start researching arcane spells that have similar effects as the divine undead-controling spells.

This is actually one of my current character's designs.

As for a PrC... sorry, don't know of one.

 

[Spatula]

I thought about taking MT, but I would lose the ability to rebuke undead with any sort of effectivenesss, correct?

Correct. MT gives you lots of spellcasting, but nothing else. TN lets you stack caster levels for necromancy spells, stacks with cleric levels for rebuking undead, and gives a few other minor abilities.

 

[Dwarmaj]

Under Necromancer, it does says:

When she casts necromantic spells (from the school of Necromancy or the domain of Death), all her spellcaster levels stack for purposes of dertermining their effect.

Would a Wiz3/Cl3/MT10/TN4(wiz)
Caster level for Wiz would be 17
Caster level for Cleric would be 13

Should the caster level for necromancy spells be 20 (3+3+10+4) or 31 (17+13)?

 

[Krafen]

I believe it is possible to qualify as a straight cleric by taking the Spells domain. With greater anyspell you can technically cast the sorcerer/wizard spells in the True Necromancer prerequisites. I don't know of any dieties who have both the Death and Spells domains, so you would probably need to be a cleric of a philosophy.

 

[welby]

was trying not to be a cleric, but rather an arcane caster. I may just stay necromancer specialist and not pick up a PrC.

 

[melkoriii]

was trying not to be a cleric, but rather an arcane caster. I may just stay necromancer specialist and not pick up a PrC.

Ya I know what you mean. I wanted a character that was a Necro (lots of Controled undead) but stay as a Arcan caster. Its not out there. You have to make yor own PrCl.

I have one that you get into by lvl 5 and the PrCl gives the Rebuke/Command ability as if you are a Cleric of the class lvl but use Int in place of Wis. It seems ballenced as you lose out on Feats and only get a Rebuke/Command lvl of 15 but there are some magic items you can take to bump that to 19.

 

[welby]

I have one that you get into by lvl 5 and the PrCl gives the Rebuke/Command ability as if you are a Cleric of the class lvl but use Int in place of Wis. It seems ballenced as you lose out on Feats and only get a Rebuke/Command lvl of 15 but there are some magic items you can take to bump that to 19.

Sounds interesting...care to share?