I am looking at an Undying Light Patron Pact of the Blade Warlock or a Favored Soul Sorcerous Origin Sorcerer, probably with the War Domain. Either way, I would start with a level of fighter and take the Great Weapon Fighting Style, usually using a maul, and using the new Green Flame Blade Cantrip. Which of these do you think would make the better gish character? Any other suggestions? Thanks!
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Undying Light Warlock versus Favored Soul Sorcerer
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Duan'duliir
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First of all, is your DM allowing UA material?
That aside, Undying Light Warlock is generally considered very broken (particularly because of their Searing Vengeance). With their boost to the GFB cantrip (+Cha to all fire damage) Undying Light warlock is definitely the better choice IMO
Favoured Soul on the other hand, gets normal spellcasting progression, so factor that in to your decision if the spells that you cast matter. Another thing is what level you are going to in the adventure you are playing; Favoured Souls get healing at sorcerer level 18, and even if you don't get that far, wings at 14th. Also, since you seem to intend to be wading into melee, while sorcerer hit dice are lower, they get proficiency in medium armour for being a favoured soul. Warlocks only get light armour.
That aside, Undying Light Warlock is generally considered very broken (particularly because of their Searing Vengeance). With their boost to the GFB cantrip (+Cha to all fire damage) Undying Light warlock is definitely the better choice IMO
Favoured Soul on the other hand, gets normal spellcasting progression, so factor that in to your decision if the spells that you cast matter. Another thing is what level you are going to in the adventure you are playing; Favoured Souls get healing at sorcerer level 18, and even if you don't get that far, wings at 14th. Also, since you seem to intend to be wading into melee, while sorcerer hit dice are lower, they get proficiency in medium armour for being a favoured soul. Warlocks only get light armour.
Kithas
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I realized my post didn't really add anything. So ill give some general gish advice.
Hill dwarf is awesome no matter which you choose. They don't get a speed penalty with heavy armor for having a low str score, so you can dump str. If you grab a shield and a staff for your arcane focus you can just use cantrips for your basic attacks, that way you don't even need a good Dex. Basically all you need is a good Con/Cha.
If you really want to do the "weapon attack" cantrips from scag, My advice would be to go pact of the Tome and steal Shillelagh from Druid, you can cast this on your staff letting you use your cha to hit and for damage!
Hill dwarf is awesome no matter which you choose. They don't get a speed penalty with heavy armor for having a low str score, so you can dump str. If you grab a shield and a staff for your arcane focus you can just use cantrips for your basic attacks, that way you don't even need a good Dex. Basically all you need is a good Con/Cha.
If you really want to do the "weapon attack" cantrips from scag, My advice would be to go pact of the Tome and steal Shillelagh from Druid, you can cast this on your staff letting you use your cha to hit and for damage!
If you're planning to use great weapon fighting I'm not sure how much greenflame blade is really getting you once you're getting your second attack. (EDIT: Is your DM being super lenient and letting you reroll the extra damage from greenflame?) The sorcerer route lets you quicken GFB so you can still use it along with the extra attacks feature (although it's worth noting that as a war domain favored soul you'll get access to spiritual weapon, which gives you a more efficient but less damaging way to use bonus actions). Combined with getting spirit guardians that means you're going to be doing a lot more damage in melee as the sorcerer, at least as long as the resources last. Warlock has the extra attack as an optional feature, so if you're set on using your main action to use GFB it might feel less wasteful.
What role do you see your character playing in a party? The warlock is going to get access to some healing and damage mitigation later in their career, but as I said above the sorcerer is the better melee bruiser type damage output wise (depending on how willing you are to spend your resources on it).
Are you rolling for stats or point buy?
What role do you see your character playing in a party? The warlock is going to get access to some healing and damage mitigation later in their career, but as I said above the sorcerer is the better melee bruiser type damage output wise (depending on how willing you are to spend your resources on it).
Are you rolling for stats or point buy?
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We haven't talked about whether I can reroll the damage from Green Flame Blade yet. We will have a very small party (possibly as small as two), so I wanted a character who could do more than one thing, both some melee fighting and some blasting. We rolled for stats. Before racial bonuses and not yet assigned to any particular attributes, I rolled
17, 17, 15, 11, 11.
17, 17, 15, 11, 11.
Because you get to add CHA bonus to damage from level 1 for fire and radiant spells.
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