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[UPDATED] Issues With Official D&D 5E Spell Cards?

[UPDATED with info from GF9] Have you had any trouble getting the newly updated D&D 5th Edition spell cards from Gale Force 9? According to at least one customer, there's a little bit of a snafu. EN World member trystero ordered some cards requesting that the order be held until the new, updated cards were available, but was sent the old version instead. He was advised to contact WotC directly when he queried this. Trystero says that "I e-mailed them about my order, placed 8 February, and asked them to hold it until they could fulfill with the revised printings, and they wrote back to say that the updated decks were expected in "late March or early April", and that my order would ship then. But the next day, they sent me a copy of the original, uncorrected Arcane deck. I wrote back to say that it wasn't what I'd ordered, and asked how I could return it."

[UPDATED with info from GF9] Have you had any trouble getting the newly updated D&D 5th Edition spell cards from Gale Force 9? According to at least one customer, there's a little bit of a snafu. EN World member trystero ordered some cards requesting that the order be held until the new, updated cards were available, but was sent the old version instead. He was advised to contact WotC directly when he queried this. Trystero says that "I e-mailed them about my order, placed 8 February, and asked them to hold it until they could fulfill with the revised printings, and they wrote back to say that the updated decks were expected in "late March or early April", and that my order would ship then. But the next day, they sent me a copy of the original, uncorrected Arcane deck. I wrote back to say that it wasn't what I'd ordered, and asked how I could return it."

Gale Force 9 is the licensed producer of the spell cards and sells them through its online store, Flames of War. I'm not 100% clear where Battlefront fits in there - all the company addresses mention it, so I assume it's a parent company or somesuch. Perhaps somebody in the comments can clarify!

His email exchange with Battlefront went as follows:

Battlefront Customer Service: Unfortunately there is nothing in place to replace the original card sets. This was an error caused by Wizard of the Coast sending the wrong files to be printed. Should you need to seek compensation may I suggest contacting their customer service department?

Trystero: I'm very confused by this reply: I understand that the corrected printings aren't available yet, and at this point I just want to return the first-printing box which you shipped me (despite my having e-mailed twice to ask for my order to be held until new printings are available). How should I return this unwanted item?

Battlefront Customer Service: We are not accepting returns or exchanges for these cards. Please direct any further questions to Wizards of the Coast. This error is on their side.


Of course, mistakes happen, and that's OK. They can be resolved, and I'm sure trystero will get his issue fixed in no time. But it's curious that GF9 is directing people towards WotC on the matter rather than dealing with it themselves. I have no insight into any arrangements between the two companies, other than that GF9's products are official, licensed D&D products.

I think personally I'll hold off until the end of April or so before ordering any of the newly updated cards, just in case. I'm sure it'll sort itself out!

UPDATE -- John-Paul Brisigotti from Battlefront has posted a reply.

Let me first begin by apologising for this confusion. The comments from our customer service team are incorrect and despite initiative being used to try and give an answer, without management oversight this person has made this unclear when the goal is always to do the opposite. This is a GF9 product and the issue of the missing cards is ours to resolve and has nothing to do with WOTC.

When these decks were being finalised WOTC were in the final stages of completing almost two years of work on 5th Ed and trying to get the Players Handbook to the printers. We were also trying to get our decks completed and despite months of back and forth we still missed a single card out of the Arcane and Paladin deck from spells that made it into the book at the last round of edits. At the time we discussed how to try and get these missing cards out to the world but the practicality of doing so was unrealistic so knowing we had more specialist and archetype decks to release we thought that was our best chance to resolve this issue.

In April a new deck of Elemental spells that comes with the Princes of the Apocalypse module will be released and the following month some Archetype decks for the classes. In both sets we will add the two cards to the decks so that everybody who is missing them has multiple chances of getting the missing cards. This plan was to be announced as part of this Fridays web update so for more details visit www.gf9-dnd.com this weekend.

This entire issue is one of poor communication on our part and that is never a helpful way to resolve any problem. The GF9 name has stood for high quality D&D product for over five years now and given the overwhelmingly positive response we have had from you on the new 5th ed product the last thing we want to do is not resolve these issues. Thank you for your understanding.

John-Paul Brisigotti
CEO Battlefront Group

 

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Blue

Ravenous Bugblatter Beast of Traal
"Shocking!"

"Gross negligence!"

"BOYCOTT!!"

These words are losing all meaning. What're we talking about again?

We're talking about multiple people getting shipped the wrong product and being told to go complain to another company and/or have their emails ignored for over a week.

Yes, it's the internet and people go crazy. But your minimization of the issue doesn't help any more than their hyperbole. If you want people to contribute positively on forums, one could do worse then providing a good role model.
 

Gale Force Nine

First Post
The error on our part was not knowing that one of our staff was copying and pasting the same response out to six people in total. That is how many people got the same message and they should all have had a retraction and apology from me for the confusion by now. This is a management issue as the staff member did not do this out of malice but from a misguided idea that he was trying to deal with it. The blame here lies with us for not communicating this on our website and through the WOTC site properly at the start as that would have avoided CS tickets and disappointment. Being upset with us is understandable and I just hope our solution helps restore some of the lost faith this has caused.

For those of your who are still not getting any reply from our CS system can I please ask that you forward the email to me directly as the system we have is pretty reliable so if you have not had an answer within 24hours then something has gone wrong as each office around the world checks the list and allocates them each day, something I can see here at HO, so tickets with no response needs looking into. john-paul@battlefront.co.nz
 

trystero

Explorer
Mr Brisigotti has contacted me by e-mail and we're working to get my order corrected. I'll post the outcome here, but I'm encouraged.
 

Mr Brisigotti has contacted me by e-mail and we're working to get my order corrected. I'll post the outcome here, but I'm encouraged.

I think they have done the right thing, doing they're best to make it right. I am happy with my (full) set of cards, though it was a little annoying to go around and mark a C on them for concentration. I will probably donate my old set and get the new ones I need after April.
 



maimonidesvii

First Post
I'm not suggesting anyone boycott anything, and I don't suddenly blame the whole company for anything terrible. I did, however, get a product earlier that I found unsatisfactory, and was told that my complaints weren't valid, that everything I suggested wouldn't happen, and was not offered any way to return the product. Then, they announce a huge fix with all the things I mentioned, with no way for me to upgrade.

Everyone else if welcome to do what they wish, but I don't think it's unreasonable to buy a poor product, followed up with poor CS, and then make the personal decision to no longer purchase products from said vendor.
 

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