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What all can go towards touch AC?

Uruk

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One of the players in my group has a touch attack he can use a ton of times so I'm needing to check for a lot of touch ACs. According to the SRD a player gets:

Dex + Size + Deflection

and doesn't get:

Armor, Shield or Natural

I would think the player would get a dodge bonus as well since it falls in with the bonuses that keep a player from being touched, while something like an arcane bonus wouldn't. I haven't been able to confirm/deny this, but since they specify what doesn't count and because dodge sort of ties in with a dex type bonus I'm pretty curious.
 

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Antikinesis

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Uruk said:
One of the players in my group has a touch attack he can use a ton of times so I'm needing to check for a lot of touch ACs. According to the SRD a player gets:

Dex + Size + Deflection

and doesn't get:

Armor, Shield or Natural

I would think the player would get a dodge bonus as well since it falls in with the bonuses that keep a player from being touched, while something like an arcane bonus wouldn't. I haven't been able to confirm/deny this, but since they specify what doesn't count and because dodge sort of ties in with a dex type bonus I'm pretty curious.

hong said:
A touch attack ignores armour and natural armour bonuses to AC. You count everything else.

Just to clarify... a shield provides an armor bonus, and does not count against touch attacks.

-AK
 


Xahn'Tyr

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And to be even more clear, ignoring the armor bonus to AC also means that ignore the enchanment bonus on the armor that is being ignored. In other words, your +5 plate is just as useless against a touch attack as mundane plate.
 

kreynolds

First Post
Xahn'Tyr said:
And to be even more clear, ignoring the armor bonus to AC also means that ignore the enchanment bonus on the armor that is being ignored. In other words, your +5 plate is just as useless against a touch attack as mundane plate.

Well, since the enhancement bonus on armor is an "armor" bonus, that much is pretty obvious. ;) But I understand why you pointed it out. I was confused about that not too long ago.
 
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nwn_deadman

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You would get the following bonus:

DEX
WIS (Monk)
CHA (Mystic)
INT (Duelist)

Dodge
Mobility (AOO)
Haste
Luck (EDIT, forgot to add this)
Cover
Deflection

Fighting Defensively
or
Total Defense
 
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gfunk

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Don't forget that cover bonuses, like those from a Shield spell, apply against touch attacks as well. Also, a Haste spell would do the trick.
 

hong

WotC's bitch
gfunk said:
Don't forget that cover bonuses, like those from a Shield spell, apply against touch attacks as well. Also, a Haste spell would do the trick.

For once (THAC0 notwithstanding), it's easier to remember what to subtract than what to add. :)
 


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