Working out the XP of creatures

[Peter Holland]

Seriously need help here- the formula is so insanely complex and not very clear is it Health/ ((25.2/Defence)*25.2)*soak PLUS 24/(attack [all attack dice or some?]*4.2)*(damage dice*4.2)+((range [squares or feet?]/10)*4.2)?

Or do you add them?

And what is he stray 25 for?

 

[LucasC]

I had the same problem. I will PM you a Dropbox link to a spreadsheet Morrus gave me for doing this.

 

[Morrus]

It's basically the average amount of damage per round a creature will do against a standard enemy divided by the average amount of damage per round it will take from that same standard enemy. The spreadsheet should do that for you.

It is fairly complex to do manually; I'm looking at finding approximations, but that is very low priority at the moment.

(Lucas, feel free to upload the spreadsheet here - I would, but I'm on my phone).

 

[LucasC]

Here is the spreadsheet - might be a good add to the NEW playtest downloads. View attachment WOIN_XP_CALCULATOR.xls

 

[Peter Holland]

I tried to create my own spreadsheet- but couldn't manage it as I couldn't work out all of the numbers etc.

I think perhaps a more simple 'art' style system like d20 might make things a little easier- it won't be mathematically as perfect- but it will be easier for GMs to work with.

 

[Morrus]

I think perhaps a more simple 'art' style system like d20 might make things a little easier- it won't be mathematically as perfect- but it will be easier for GMs to work with.

The d20 system has a lot more restriction and math than this one. That aside, the monster creation section is guidelines only. If you want a 3' tall alien with the strength of a tyrannosaurus, go right ahead. If you want Q from Star Trek, just give him the necessary powers. You'll have to ball-park the XP value if you use unusual abilities, but that's fine.

 

[Peter Holland]

With D20 you ballpark as well- they give you guidance for the XP things are worth- within a range- its art rather than science- this whole 'calculation' is very very complicated. And what about non-combat NPCs?


That said, with your calculations- this sheet will track your antagonist and also does some of the calculations for you.

 

[Morrus]

With D20 you ballpark as well

Sorry, I was talking about overall monster/NPC design, not XP. Drifted off topic there for a moment.

And what about non-combat NPCs?

What about them? The XP formula is a tool to specifically help guide combat XP. Non-combat XP is a separate thing.

 

[Peter Holland]

Then at some point it would be good if there were guidance on how to award it- an angry politician can be far more dangerous than a deadly creature.

 

[Morrus]

Then at some point it would be good if there were guidance on how to award it- an angry politician can be far more dangerous than a deadly creature.

Of course. You only have about half the book there; I have a LOT more yet to write. But I want to be sure what's currently there works before I write another 75K words building on it. Plus I have to use it all for O.L.D., too, so I need to be doubly sure!