Would you work...

[Scott DeWar]

...in the porn industry? Not necessarily as an actor.
1] ...as a car salesman?
2] ...as a drug traffickers?
3] ...as a politician?
4] ...as a soldier?
5] ...as a tobacco PR rep?

Why/why not?

1] never - those folks are parasites
2] never - moral reasons
3] never - those folks are parasites
4] I would, I did I am happy to have done this, I wanted to do this for life.
5] No frickin way. I think it should be apperent

forgot the porn industry: no - moral delimma

 

[Homicidal_Squirrel]

A lot of people seem to have a "moral dilemma" with working in the adult industry, even if it isn't as on screen talent. Why is that? I mean, there are lots of other jobs that you can get in the adult industry. What's the deal with the "moral dilemmas?"

On a side, but related, note, a while back, when I work at a college tutoring really stupid students, a co-worker was looking for a job. She had gotten her degree in graphic design or something like it. In any case, she saw this job opening with a company in the area for a designer, or photo editor or something like that. She sent in her resume, and afterwards she decided she was going to research the company in case she got called. It turned out to be an adult company. She never got called, so I don't know if she would have taken the job or not, but I thought it was funny.

 

[sabrinathecat]

Porn Industry: Sure. I can do make-up and prosthetics.

Everything else: no.
Worst part of being a politician: having to sit through tedious meetings were everyone has to sit through at least half an hour of talking without saying anything. That's the only reason I haven't run for city council to oust some of the more idiotic people there. The idea of having to listen to that vacant blather for hours on end, all to accomplish nothing, would infuriate me.

 

[Dannyalcatraz]

A lot of people seem to have a "moral dilemma" with working in the adult industry, even if it isn't as on screen talent. Why is that? I mean, there are lots of other jobs that you can get in the adult industry. What's the deal with the "moral dilemmas?"

Well, even if you aren't on-screen talent, there's still reasons not to get involved in the pro or even "amateur" porn industries:

Ex1) Though they're doing a lot better with their self-policing, the industry still has problems with underage performers. See the Tracy Lords & GGW controversies, separated by decades.

Ex2) There is a lot of self-medication/substance abuse (illegal and legal) among the performers, cited by current and past performers as a coping mechanisms for dealing with the job. This also raises questions of consent, especially in those amateur subgenres in which the performers are filmed under false pretenses and/or where private sex tapes (some recorded secretly) are released for sale.

And by being involved in the industry, you are part of the support system that helps things like that- and others- continue.

 

[Homicidal_Squirrel]

Worst part of being a politician: having to sit through tedious meetings were everyone has to sit through at least half an hour of talking without saying anything. That's the only reason I haven't run for city council to oust some of the more idiotic people there. The idea of having to listen to that vacant blather for hours on end, all to accomplish nothing, would infuriate me.

I had a once had a nightmare that I couldn't find a job doing anything, so I had to run for public office. It was quite frightening. Seriously, I'm not joking. I actually had that dream. It was awful.

 

[Homicidal_Squirrel]

Well, even if you aren't on-screen talent, there's still reasons not to get involved in the pro or even "amateur" porn industries:

Ex1) Though they're doing a lot better with their self-policing, the industry still has problems with underage performers. See the Tracy Lords & GGW controversies, separated by decades.

Ex2) There is a lot of self-medication/substance abuse (illegal and legal) among the performers, cited by current and past performers as a coping mechanisms for dealing with the job. This also raises questions of consent, especially in those amateur subgenres in which the performers are filmed under false pretenses and/or where private sex tapes (some recorded secretly) are released for sale.

And by being involved in the industry, you are part of the support system that helps things like that- and others- continue.

Would you have the same objections to working in the Hollywood movie industry?

 

[Dannyalcatraz]

Not really. Mainstream Hollywood isn't clean, but its not as problematic as the porn industry.

Generally speaking, mainstream Hollywood isn't paying people to have actual sex on camera, so the underage sex issue is different. Hell- since the sex is faked, Hollywood doesn't have the public health issue that porn does: the professional porn industry had AIDS-related shutdowns in 2004, 2009, 2010, 2011, and 3 times in 2013. The latest started in December and is still ongoing, as I recall.

And the amateurs don't have the safety regs and mandatory sexually-transmitted disease tests that the pros do.

Further, while there is substance abuse in mainstream Hollywood, there is not the corresponding issue of lack of consent and filming under false pretenses.






(I'm an entertainment lawyer...)

 

[Jan van Leyden]

...in the porn industry? Not necessarily as an actor.

Generally yes, as I have no moral problems with porn. If there'd be an option, I'd look carefully at the business model and the code of ethics of the company. The end result would pretty sure be "no".

...as a car salesman?

This would be one of the very last options I'd try. Besides being a horrible salesman, I don't like the idea of generating more traffic and spending more resources on cars.

...as a drug traffickers?

No.

...as a politician?

Yes and no.

No because I derive my political views from a set of moral and ethical axioms by logical conclusions. This makes me incompatible with any political party.

Yes. If you offer me a job as king, I'd gladly do it.

...as a soldier?

No. One of the most important axioms is "Man must not kill".

...as a tabacco PR rep?

No. Actively working in an industry which business model is based on imperiling their customers' health is a no go. Besides, I witnessed my grandaddy dying from lung cancer.

 

[Ahnehnois]

Well, even if you aren't on-screen talent, there's still reasons not to get involved in the pro or even "amateur" porn industries:
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And by being involved in the industry, you are part of the support system that helps things like that- and others- continue.

As much as that's true, it seems to be true of pretty much any industry. I don't know that the presence of bad actors within an industry is really that revelatory. People advance through the ranks in all kinds of business due to various forms of sexual exploitation, even if it isn't on camera. It's not a good thing, but it's the world we live in.

And going beyond that, pretty much anything you can buy in the US has some profoundly abused workers involved in its production somewhere. I mean, who has it better, the actors in the porn industry, or the people who built your smartphone or slaughtered your meat or tested your pharmaceuticals?

 

[Homicidal_Squirrel]

Not really. Mainstream Hollywood isn't clean, but its not as problematic as the porn industry.

Generally speaking, mainstream Hollywood isn't paying people to have actual sex on camera, so the underage sex issue is different. Hell- since the sex is faked, Hollywood doesn't have the public health issue that porn does: the professional porn industry had AIDS-related shutdowns in 2004, 2009, 2010, 2011, and 3 times in 2013. The latest started in December and is still ongoing, as I recall.

And the amateurs don't have the safety regs and mandatory sexually-transmitted disease tests that the pros do.

Further, while there is substance abuse in mainstream Hollywood, there is not the corresponding issue of lack of consent and filming under false pretenses.

Right, yet there seems to be a pretty big problem with drugs. Lots of child stars seem to end up in rehab. It's not as if drug use is a minor thing in Hollywood.


As for the underage sex?[/quote]There's a lot of people who have come forward and said they have been sexually abused as kids in Hollywood. Cory Felman and Cory Heim seem to be two of the worst. Then there is the guy who played Elmo, and there has been managers, talent agents, and others. It's not as if it doesn't happen, it's just not made very public.

In any case, my actual point is that regardless of industry, you're going to find that there is an unsavory side to it. The adult industry isn't the only industry with this kind of stuff. It makes me wonder why people have a moral dilemma with working in the adult industry and not hollywood.

(I'm an entertainment lawyer...)

I know.