How about a deadline to WotC?

[Fifth Element]

I support this idea.

Are you a publisher? Seems to me the only real way to support this idea is to go ahead with it, as a publisher.

 

[Aus_Snow]

Oh, and while I'm in 'back to the OP' mode in general. . .

It'll never happen anyway. It wouldn't achieve anything, to start with. And it's presumptuous, and maybe even arrogant. Plus, there are publishers who've already gone ahead with 4e stuff, regardless.

 

[justanobody]

Are you a publisher? Seems to me the only real way to support this idea is to go ahead with it, as a publisher.

This isn't the STL, so like the OGL, everyone is a publisher if they want to be.

 

[Fifth Element]

This isn't the STL, so like the OGL, everyone is a publisher if they want to be.

Indeed. But unless you are a publisher, "supporting" this idea is rather meaningless.

 

[justanobody]

Indeed. But unless you are a publisher, "supporting" this idea is rather meaningless.

While the revised GSL is on hold, then it may also place the the functionality of a publisher on hold as well.

 

[Fifth Element]

While the revised GSL is on hold, then it may also place the the functionality of a publisher on hold as well.

Um...okay?

Look, my point is this: it's easy to say "I support this idea" if you have nothing to lose in the deal. Say, if you're not a publisher. The only people whose support matters are the publishers who would be issuing the ultimatum to WotC.

But of course, to those people it's a business decision, and they would be silly to restrict themselves by assigning an arbitrary deadline. You expect them not to publish 4E stuff if WotC comes out with a great revised GSL, but two weeks after the "deadline", just because they missed it. That's not a rational business decision.

 

[justanobody]

You, as a publisher, fail to recognize that non-publishers also have things to lose if a revised GSL is held up indefinitely.

It is called quality of product from publishers that they may wish were making 4th edition material.

 

[Fifth Element]

You, as a publisher, fail to recognize that non-publishers also have things to lose if a revised GSL is held up indefinitely.

I don't fail to see anything. But we know the revised GSL is in the queue, so this hypothetical seems moot.

It is called quality of product from publishers that they may wish were making 4th edition material.

Looking at it from this perspective, then, the ultimatum is a bad idea.

Say a bunch of publishers get together and set a deadline. If the deadline is missed, they all go Pathfinder.

So WotC releases a revised GSL two weeks after this deadline. All of these publishers have said they have gone Pathfinder, and will not go 4E. So you have this bunch of publishers who could have been producing quality 4E stuff, but they now refuse because of some artificial deadline.

 

[JackSmithIV]

There's some neat stuff out there. Goodman, Mongoose, XRP...

*cough cough*

Thanks for the update, Mr. Rouse!

 

[I'm A Banana]

For the record:

Deadline = Very Bad Idea.

Seriously, work WITH WotC, not against them. They aren't the enemy, they're just the uncoordinated brontosaurus that keeps falling over their own tail. Teach that brontosaurus to DANCE, and you've got a show.

(okay, Apatosaurus. SHUT UP.)