Demogorgon: Lame or Awesome?

[Starsunder]

Demogorgon is completely awesome, yes. Cant wait to see his stats.

Anthraxus is my favorite fiend, and I would love to see him stated in 4th Ed.

 

[Minigiant]

Demogorgon is not even close to being the ultimate chaotic evil AFAIK. Pale Night could kick his ass

Eeew Pale Night.


The real problem with the MM2 pic is that it's too close up to his head and to one side. You can't see his lower half well. He looks too much like a regular magical beast at first glance.

 

[op1983]

He reminds me of a platypus. Just a bunch of parts thrown together haphazardly.

 

[crash_beedo]

Over at RPG.net, there is some debate about the wisdom of putting Demogorgon on the cover.

What do the folks at old En World think?

Is Demogorgon a sign that WoTC has it right and he's aweosme or is his two headed baboon nature working against him and he's lame?

WOTC has it right. Demogorgon is a better poster monster for the new Abyssal cosmology than Orcus. Usurping the Raven Queen's dominion and gaining power over all undead? Lame. Where's the mindless destruction, the thirst for total entropy and returning the world to it's primordial state?

Two-tentacled Double-headed Baboon rage is where it's at.

 

[Mouseferatu]

Pale Night.

Eh. Never found her appealing. I much prefer the more recently created obyriths, such as Obox-ob (some of the best material to come out of a great book), even if she was added to that group after the fact.

Mydianchlarus.

A pale and feeble usurper. Anthraxus is far cooler and more interesting.

Bel.

Meh. Just a pit fiend who made good. He's not a bad character by any means, but he's not especially appealing.

Levistus.

Again, by no means a bad character, but I'd rather have kept Geryon, to be honest.

Xenghara.

I'll cop to ignorance on this one.

Daru Ib Shamiq.

You're kidding, right? The entire notion of some great power being manipulated to grant all fiends across the multiverse their teleportation powers was one of the silliest aspects of Planescape's flawed conception of the fiends. The sooner that entire element, and everything associated with it, are forgotten, the better.

this is an argument capable of forming astral rifts that will have to wait for another time, or another thread, or something.

Yeah, it probably should, at that.

 

[Nymrohd]

Haha Daru Ib Shaqim. Wow was that a WTF of an adventure. I mean beyond the improbability of sneaking into Dis of all places in the multiverse, trusting in the beneficence of a fiend not to crash land into the styx? As I said, WTF?!

 

[doppelganger]

Demogorgon is far from lame. The image may not be the best, but Demogorgon on the cover and the promise of a good write-up of it (them?) and associated demon and mortal servants has me eagerly awaiting the arrival of the book. Old school superbad beasties for the win!

 

[Klaus]

Agreed that Demogorgon is awesome, but the picture on the cover of the MMII isn't very good. Andrew Hou's rendition from the cover of Dragon Magazine was superior:

Demogorgon, as shown by this picture, is indeed awesome.

The MM2 cover, otoh, not so much.

 

[Shemeska]

The image may not be the best, but Demogorgon on the cover and the promise of a good write-up of it (them?) and associated demon and mortal servants has me eagerly awaiting the arrival of the book.

They've got some seriously big shoes to fill given FC:I's material on Demogorgon published not too long ago. Fairly or not, the 4e material will be judged with that comparison in mind I think. Will be interesting to see how much they attempt to remake Demogorgon for 4e, or if all cows being sacred in 4e if some sacred cows are more sacred than others. We'll see.

 

[I'm A Banana]

Yeah, I don't like that picture. The Dragon Magazine cover is friggin' badass, and this:

creeps me the hell out every time I look at it.

This statue:

...also fittingly of a very eerie beast.

This image is a little bit S&S, but the detail and the screeching can be heard:

The cover image, for me, is too generic and cartoony. He's some monster, I guess, but I don't get the impression that he's horrible ancient madness and destruction incarnate.