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From Gencon Events - "All D&D games at Gen Con being placed with RPGA"

Whew! That was a misleading thread Subject line!

I saw "All D&D games at Gen Con being placed with RPGA" but I read "...replaced with RPGA". lol

I'm a big RPGA guy, but I could only imagine the outrage at Gen Con if they said "Oh yeah, now the only D&D games we're offering will be LFR and D&D Encounters. Enjoy!"

lol
 

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Admittedly mostly they are for looking back and bringing some elements into 4e but here is the article with the two starter dungeons

~snip~

Not a ton, sure, and no products but it is there.

I'll have to check about the RPGA, but there are a few 4e tips of the hat to older edition adventures and tropes.

As you said the articles are more about bringing earlier D&D elements into 4E, and there aren't many of them, but there are a few. Thanks for the info!

I still stand by my subjective opinion that WotC has shown that they are not interested in promoting any earlier editions or supporting any of the players that enjoy them. But you did show me something on the WotC site that wasn't entirely 4E, and I clearly made a mistake saying otherwise.
 


As proof of that lack of interest in creating such a community please look at the WotC site and try to find anything geared towards 3E, AD&D or even older edition players.

But you did show me something on the WotC site that wasn't entirely 4E, and I clearly made a mistake saying otherwise.

So, they have the entire 8 year archive of 3.x articles still on their website and that only counts as "something that wasn't entirely 4E?" What do you expect them to do? Create new material for old editions? You do realize that creating such material costs money, right? And the stuff that doesn't is fan-created and can be found in the Previous Editions section of their Community Boards. I think your expectations of what WotC should deliver to fans of older editions are a bit too high.

Anything geared towards them under the RPGA umbrella?

Nope. But this is what happens when an originization that was previously run by fans (organized fans, but still fans) becomes an arm funded by the company. RPGA used to run events for games produced by other companies too.

What about the DDI? What about E-Drag or E-Dun, anything there?

Again, creating the content or code would require resources that any sane company would not want to spend. Your expectations are to high.

Does WotC even allow 20+ year OOP products to be sold via pdf?

No. Nor do they allow the sale of new PDF's. This isn't older edition-hate on their part, it's PDF piracy hate. The fact that the majority of us don't agree with their decision does not make this issue one of edition.

Has WotC done anything in the last few years to support or promote any D&D but 4E?

Support Directly? No, for the reasons above. Indirectly? Yes, through the allotted fan space on their servers to discuss older editions. Promote? Yes. The recent highlights of fan bloggers does not disriminate based on edition. They have showcased DMs who play any edition.

WotC is running a business, and promoting their latest edition is the right thing to do. But providing any kind of support for players of earlier editions has never been part of their marketing plans, and to say otherwise would seem to fly in the face of their own actions.

So you understand that an RPG company is not going to support older editions of their game. But that is not the same as not having a goal of uniting players of all editions of your game.

Now if what we are seeing from this Gen Con announcement, is the start of a new plan to bring players of older editions "back into the D&D fold" I am all for it. I think if managed right this could help defuse the current schism between 4E and 3E players, and it might end up increasing the number of 4E players. ICE operates that way, providing support for all editions of Rolemaster and it works fine.

Well them why take it negatively. They're reaching out and you bite their hand. Does ICE actually support the older editions by producing new material? Has Rolemaster changed enough between editions that a new supplement would be useless for older edition games?

I still stand by my subjective opinion that WotC has shown that they are not interested in promoting any earlier editions or supporting any of the players that enjoy them.

And many of us have shown that they have extended support (you have no inherent right to post older edition material on their messageboards) and promoted older editions (through article spotlights).
 

Don't shed a tear for Pathfinder, folks.

We have our own rooms that we expect to be packed to the gills. The Sagamore is a HUGE room, and I think this is a way for WotC and Gen Con to better utilize the limited space available in the convention hall.

Good on them, I say.

--Erik Mona
Publisher
Paizo Publishing
 

I suspect, as a few others have mentioned, that this is actually a move by Gen Con to make better use of alloted space. If they start sticking other D&D games in the under-utilized space of the RPGA hall, that frees up other rooms for more workshops, seminars, and games. Space at the convention center is at a premium while they expand and remodel, so it doesn't make sense for them to let half a room sit empty most of the convention.
Wasn't that expansion supposed to be finished by this summer?

Lan-"not that I'll see it this year if it is"-efan
 

Don't shed a tear for Pathfinder, folks.

We have our own rooms that we expect to be packed to the gills. The Sagamore is a HUGE room, and I think this is a way for WotC and Gen Con to better utilize the limited space available in the convention hall.

Good on them, I say.

--Erik Mona
Publisher
Paizo Publishing

Yea! I'm actually going this year, so I think I'll spend time in both rooms!

Is Metallica playing? :)
 
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Don't shed a tear for Pathfinder, folks.

We have our own rooms that we expect to be packed to the gills. The Sagamore is a HUGE room, and I think this is a way for WotC and Gen Con to better utilize the limited space available in the convention hall.

Good on them, I say.

--Erik Mona
Publisher
Paizo Publishing

Oh. My. Gawd.


Eric Mona is in on it!!!111!Eleventy!@21352

dun-dun-duuuuunnnnnn
 

Ooooo, that's cool! Hopefully we'll get our 1e tourney transferred to the Sagamore. For those interested, the numbers are RPG1008381, RPG1008380, RPG1008379, RPG1008378, RPG1008377, RPG1008376. We're having 3 different tables on two days.

Glad to see WotC doing this.

joe b.
 

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