Jan van Leyden
Adventurer
Good thing my DDI subscription has just run out. This thing devalues DDI for me big time. With the sinking quality and amount of material in Dungeon and Dragon there doesn't remain much worth paying for.
New Character Builder from WotC!
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Is there any actual intellectual property in the Character Builder stats? Assuming no house rules, I mean?
Keefe the Thief
Hero
ENworld invents the best phrases, i swear. I liked "WotC raped my childhood" when Dungeon and Dragon went digital, but "hold my characters hostage?" Brilliant!
Wait, i'll try it out: "Steam holds my savegames and achievements hostage."
I love it.
Wait, i'll try it out: "Steam holds my savegames and achievements hostage."
I love it.
Nope. And even if it was - it's a ten dollar purchase for one month. Not a big deal.
I'm out. I will not be renewing my DDI membership (which ran out at the end of Oct.)
In fact, forcing players to purchase this monthly subscription is likely going to kill 4E playing in my group. (And before you say that WotC is not "forcing" it - consider that for new players the DDI Character Builder was a key enticing factor for playing 4E. Now - not so much.)
So now we have the following issues:
1) Books that are instantly errated and not worth the paper they are printed on.
2) WotC holding onto your characters and all of the errata so you have to pay $10 a month to access them.
3) Forcing you to play with a ready Internet connection
I hope this fails and they go back to the previous model.
Retreater
In fact, forcing players to purchase this monthly subscription is likely going to kill 4E playing in my group. (And before you say that WotC is not "forcing" it - consider that for new players the DDI Character Builder was a key enticing factor for playing 4E. Now - not so much.)
So now we have the following issues:
1) Books that are instantly errated and not worth the paper they are printed on.
2) WotC holding onto your characters and all of the errata so you have to pay $10 a month to access them.
3) Forcing you to play with a ready Internet connection
I hope this fails and they go back to the previous model.
Retreater
S
Sunseeker
Guest
Cloud computing will be the death of us all.
That said, I think it's hilarious to hear people griping about "paying for material I'll never use" when they're only paying 10 bucks or less a month for it. You were all abusing the system and you know it. You are the pirates WOTC is trying to stop. And now your whining that you can't steal from them anymore? HA!
Really guys? I buy one manual, it's 40 bucks(lets just go with MSRP, not ebay), two, now it's 80, get a nice set of all the core books, I'm staring down well over 200. I want power books? tack on another 30 a piece, pretty soon I'm looking down the barrel of easily $500 in books, magazines and supplements.
or, I could pay 10 bucks a month for ALL of that information, and it would take me over 4 years to total up to that amount. Which we all know more books, more supplements, more magazines would be released. Hell, a new edition may come out and you'll have to repeat the whole process all over again.
As much as I don't like the flaws in this system, based on the cost alone, it is still WELL worth it. And I personally will enjoy not having to deal with buggy updates and just know that when I log in to the website, it will be fully updates and ready to go.
That said, I think it's hilarious to hear people griping about "paying for material I'll never use" when they're only paying 10 bucks or less a month for it. You were all abusing the system and you know it. You are the pirates WOTC is trying to stop. And now your whining that you can't steal from them anymore? HA!
Really guys? I buy one manual, it's 40 bucks(lets just go with MSRP, not ebay), two, now it's 80, get a nice set of all the core books, I'm staring down well over 200. I want power books? tack on another 30 a piece, pretty soon I'm looking down the barrel of easily $500 in books, magazines and supplements.
or, I could pay 10 bucks a month for ALL of that information, and it would take me over 4 years to total up to that amount. Which we all know more books, more supplements, more magazines would be released. Hell, a new edition may come out and you'll have to repeat the whole process all over again.
As much as I don't like the flaws in this system, based on the cost alone, it is still WELL worth it. And I personally will enjoy not having to deal with buggy updates and just know that when I log in to the website, it will be fully updates and ready to go.
Rodrigo Istalindir
Explorer
ENworld invents the best phrases, i swear. I liked "WotC raped my childhood" when Dungeon and Dragon went digital, but "hold my characters hostage?" Brilliant!
Wait, i'll try it out: "Steam holds my savegames and achievements hostage."
I love it.
Bad analogy. Steam doesn't charge you a monthly fee to access content you paid for, and WotC isn't selling you the character generator, only access to it.
And you're not planning on using any Essentials stuff as well.
Rodrigo Istalindir
Explorer
They diddled around and never got the CB updated with Dark Sun (and now we know why), so if you want it (which, since we're starting up a DS game, I kinda did) in the CB, the new online-version is the only way you'll get it.
Were you working directly from your character builder on your laptop during sessions, or did you work from a printout?
If you have a printout, your character is not held hostage. You have a copy of the data.
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