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[Treebore]

When I laminate I do it front and back, so they are surprisingly strong and durable. So as long as that edge stays sealed they are also protected from spills/moisture.

You would have to put some effort into bending/tearing these things. Scissors work, but "normal" use? They hold up extremely well.

 

[shadzar]

When I laminate I do it front and back, so they are surprisingly strong and durable. So as long as that edge stays sealed they are also protected from spills/moisture.

You would have to put some effort into bending/tearing these things. Scissors work, but "normal" use? They hold up extremely well.

You must be using a thicker card stock than me, and even thinker than old game cardboard tokens then. I have seen many of both get bent up and folded quite easily.

 

[Klaus]

You must be using a thicker card stock than me, and even thinker than old game cardboard tokens then. I have seen many of both get bent up and folded quite easily.

As you can see in this picture, Fiery Dragon counters are thicker than a coin:

 

[megamania]

plastic and metal would last longer but weigh more when carrying. Also, I assume paper stickers would be used for images on these. So they would not be water proofed.



I'm not sure about the advantages as such.

 

[Janx]

As you can see in this picture, Fiery Dragon counters are thicker than a coin:

When I see Danny's question and am reminded of Klaus's work, I wonder how much it would be for a company to print Klaus's tokens on the same plastic that WizKids used for their Pirates of the Spanish Main, which was punch-out ships in credit-card thick plastic.

I suspect that a company (chinese) could setup the print runs and cutting press such that Klaus could layout his tokens so they fit a standard punch-out pattern.

Plastic tokens would still be cheap, and durable and compact. And they wouldn't be randomized, and could easily be packaged as full sets of klaus's work. So buying a pack would be a TON of tokens

 

[Dannyalcatraz]

Why? Plastic disks would be cheaper than a sculpted plastic mini.

And, likewise, sculpted/etched coin-sized metal tokens would be cheaper than metal minis.

When I see Danny's question and am reminded of Klaus's work, I wonder how much it would be for a company to print Klaus's tokens on the same plastic that WizKids used for their Pirates of the Spanish Main, which was punch-out ships in credit-card thick plastic.

I suspect that a company (chinese) could setup the print runs and cutting press such that Klaus could layout his tokens so they fit a standard punch-out pattern.

Plastic tokens would still be cheap, and durable and compact. And they wouldn't be randomized, and could easily be packaged as full sets of klaus's work. So buying a pack would be a TON of tokens

Which, along with their Rocketmen game, was exactly my inspiration!

The magstrip/RFID stuff that either contained or directed a device to find all of a token's game info was all me, though. And I suppose bar codes or those new data square things (whatever they're called) that are popping up all over the place could work, too.

 

[shadzar]

I suspect that a company (chinese) could setup the print runs and cutting press such that Klaus could layout his tokens so they fit a standard punch-out pattern.

Die-cut is die-cut, the chinese arent the only ones that can do that. I would hope credit cards and bank cards for here aren't made in china!

Just think of printable business cards, mailing labels, and all those other "punch out" things you can use in your home. Anywhere that can make punchout should be able to increase the guillotine depth in order to go through the credit card type of stock.

Heck then random boosters of tokens would be interesting!...as long as they were done with common sense in mind...not trying to shove 10 "cards" of tokens per booster for like $12 of something or they are SOL. If they could find something to sell at the price point of $1, then they would have a gold mine, because most people would waste a dollar on just about anything...just look at those sticker and tatto vending machines.

1 card per pack would mean no rarity, 3 cards per pack would need to be $2, but give you two commons and either an uncommon or rare card to punch out, and people wouldnt mind so much about the cost. Scale the tokens to the right size and sell size based booster packs. Buy a pack of huge, and you get all huge monsters, large and get all large monsters...etc.

That might work if done without trying to go the price point of all other booster related products, and without thinking of them as collectible.

With as many people still sending those credit cards as coupons and such for stores in the mail, the process cant be that expensive to cut them and print them these days.

 

[Fiery_Dragon]

What I'd like (and what we're working on) is to have the our counters available in three formatsL

1) Cardstock Counter Collections - like Klaus showed above, the ones we've had for sale for some time now. We have them broken out into Tier (Heroic, Paragon, Epic) and by Series (1, 2, 3) corresponding to the 4E Monster Manuals. They are on thick cardstock, with bloodied images on the obverse.

2) Digital Tokens - so you can print and play. Currently, we sell PDF versions of our Counter Collections, but I'm working on sets of jpeg images that you could print at home (and, fingers crossed, someday load into the WotC VTT...)

3) Plastic Medallions - these are something we're working on for the near future. They are light plastic discs with counter images. They can be written on with dry/erase markers (we use a red marker to mark bloodied monsters). The thing we're trying to figure out now is the configuration and price. They're more expensive than the Counter Collections, but far cheaper than miniatures, and unlike the cardstock versions, you can't have 800 in a set (more like 75-100). Work in progress...

 

[UnknownAtThisTime]

No, not really.

I like my MV tokens, but I like minis far more.

I agree with this, except that the beauty of the cardboard tokens is cost. All things being equal, minis are better. But the cardboard tokens are SO CHEAP.

To DannyA, they really are quite stout, and with proper storage should last quite some time. I bought coin collecting tubes for about a quarter a piece to organize and store the MV style tokens. I think they are not very likely to get damaged.

And in my product publishing model, you would get replacements every now and again anyway....

 

[Olgar Shiverstone]

More durable counters are definitely a plus.

I made the best ones I own myself -- took scans of monster pictures I found on line, printed them to glossy photo paper, then cut them out into 1" circles and glued them to 1" washers. They are nice and substatial to handle, don't blow away on the battle mat, are durable to use, look good, and were dirt cheap to make.