3 weeks till new Who!

[MerricB]

BTW, this is a pretty amusing look at the issues raised by The Name of the Doctor: http://www.denofgeek.com/tv/doctor-...stions-from-doctor-who-the-name-of-the-doctor

Cheers!

 

[Dannyalcatraz]

Clara = TARDIS

Obvious.

 

[Tonguez]

Hey in an idle moment of possible stage 1 sleep I was stuck with a sudden wild prediction of what the 50th might have instore
namely
The 50th depicts the Battle of Trenzalore (which might be the Timewar) in which John Hurt is the Doctor who is doing bad things for the sake of his own peace and sanity. Of course since the Time scar incident 11 is physically inside his own head and Clara and River have to do stuff to change the outcome of the battle. Of course John Hurt Doctor escapes and because he was never a real regeneration (11 was still alive inside himself) he doesn't count as part of the 13 and instead becomes the Valeyard ...

so 1 The GI reset the timeline 2 Clara re-reset the Timeline and 3. 11 resets the outcome of Trenzalore thus resetting the timeline again.
All those resets clear the way for an entire rewrite of the Doctor Lore

and as much as I love the idea of Clara being the Tardis what if Clara is infact The Other?

 

[Morrus]

No, the GI specifically said that Trenzalore was not the Time War.

I don't subscribe to the Clara TARDIS idea. She's just a normal girl who gets fragmented through time that's the whole point. No, if there's an explanation there, it's that she's righting something the GI did but which wasn't shown to us.

 

[lin_fusan]

The finale really makes me think that this half-season was a disservice for the character of Clara. There could have been so many interesting ways to foreshadow Clara more and give her some full characterization.

I could have seen them being really cute and having each episode a call back to a classic Who ep, one per Doctor, and a hint of a Clara helping him per episode.

I mean, each season has (or had) exactly 13 episodes, that's 1 episode per incarnation.

I still think John Hurt is an aged 8th/Paul McGann.

 

[Garick83]

Personally I think John Hurt is actually one of two incarnations of the doctor. 1) He is the true first incarnation of the being who becomes "The Doctor". Meaning John Hurt does the things that The first doctor William Hartnell started running from because he was ashamed and ran from his past and renamed himself as the Doctor. 2) he is in fact the actual 9th Doctor who end the time war and cause the pseudo deaths of billions before regenerating into Christopher Eccelston. Thoughts?

 

[Vyvyan Basterd]

They didn't twist it to fit. They just forgot all about it.

Trenzalore where no living being can lie or refuse to answer.

Said by a crazy murderer who was trying to save his own life. He could have just been lying. It may have even been part of the GI's plan to lure the Doctor's companions and the Doctor himself to the place where he wanted to exact his revenge.

 

[MerricB]

The finale really makes me think that this half-season was a disservice for the character of Clara. There could have been so many interesting ways to foreshadow Clara more and give her some full characterization.

Of the 14 episodes (including "The Snowmen") this season, Clara has been in 10 of them.

Cheers!

 

[MerricB]

Said by a crazy murderer who was trying to save his own life. He could have just been lying. It may have even been part of the GI's plan to lure the Doctor's companions and the Doctor himself to the place where he wanted to exact his revenge.

Erm - I think you're getting things confused there.

Crazy murderer guy: "The Doctor has a secret he will take to his grave, and it is discovered."

Secret = The Hurt Doctor
Grave is discovered.

Interesting thing there is the interpretation of "Take to his grave"... originally you think "Doctor's death"... but maybe not!

Dorium - that's the fat blue guy who has lost a lot of weight - relating the Silence's aims:
"On the fields of Trenzalore, at the fall of the 11th, when no living creature can speak falsely or fail to answer, a Question will be asked. A question that must never, ever be answered."

Fuller conversation:
The Doctor: What's so dangerous about my future?
Maldovar: On the Fields of Trenzalore, at the Fall of the Eleventh, when no living creature can speak falsely or fail to answer, a question will be asked. A question that must never ever be answered.
The Doctor: "Silence will fall when the question is asked."
Maldovar: "Silence must fall" would be a better translation. The Silence are determined that the question will never be answered, that the Doctor will never reach Trenzalore.
The Doctor: I don't understand, what's it got to do with me?
Maldovar: The first question—the oldest question in the universe; hidden in plain sight. Would you like to know what it is?
The Doctor: Yes.
Maldovar: Are you sure? {the skulls start turning} Very very sure?
The Doctor not very very sure: Of course.
Maldovar: Then I shall tell you. But on your own head be it.

Cheers!

 

[MerricB]

Actually looking at that conversation... the one thing I'm not sure about is the Fall of the Eleventh. The question being answered led to the discovery of the Hurt Doctor, and the implications of that aren't known yet.