We saw a Star War! Last Jedi spoiler thread

[pukunui]

I can see Mars, Jupiter, and Venus easily with my naked eye. If one of them were to violently explode, I'm pretty sure we'd all be able to see it, as long as it was in the sky at the time.

Not with this much detail:

If Delta Vega really was that close to Vulcan, then it would've suffered some serious consequences. This scene would've been fine if they'd given Spock a telescope or other form of viewing screen.

 

[billd91]

To be fair, the reason they started with "Episode 4" wasn't because that was Lucas' vision. He said that it was because the stuff he wanted to do with Episodes 1-3 required special effects that weren't quite able to be performed yet. So he started with Episode 4 since he felt those movies would be easier to do, with the intention of doing 1-3 later in order to fill in the details.

He didn't start in media res just because.

If that's coming from George Lucas, it's BS. He has a bad habit of revising and revising and revising his own history with respect to his intentions with Star Wars and padding it with significance as if it were all planned. Based on some of his earliest discussions, he did start in media res intentionally because he wanted to do an homage to the serial movies of Flash Gordon and others like that. He wanted it to feel like it was part of an ongoing story and we were just seeing a portion of it. What he didn't have was a story arc telling us the saga of Anakin Skywalker or any plan for special effects for Episodes 1-3 that he couldn't accomplish with the technology of the time so he started with Episode 4. That's pure Lucas revisionism BS.

 

[Water Bob]

The movie never said, but I got the impression from it that the beam destroyed other systems two. The beam splits into many pieces and seems to hit multiple systems.

Actually, it hit just one system, the Hosnian Prime system, but it hits multiple targets within that one system--Hosnian Prime and its moons, mostly.

 

[Water Bob]

Does anyone have TLJ Visual Dictionary? I've just heard that there's info in it about Snoke....that would lead you to believe that he will be in Episode IX.

Hm....

 

[pukunui]

Actually, it hit just one system, the Hosnian Prime system, but it hits multiple targets within that one system--Hosnian Prime and its moons, mostly.

I believe they are meant to be all the different planets in the Hosnian system, but you'd be forgiven for thinking they were one planet plus a bunch of moons, given their visual proximity.

Does anyone have TLJ Visual Dictionary? I've just heard that there's info in it about Snoke....that would lead you to believe that he will be in Episode IX.

Interesting. I haven't got it myself, but I've read about some things that are in it.

 

[Morrus]

You've latched on to one theory (one that is never stated in the movie) and decided it is true.

Wait, we're now saying that things we know to be true in real life only apply in Star Wars if stated in the movie? Our inability to see planets in other star systems isn't valid because it isn't stated in the movie?

I pointed out about 10 logical inconsistencies in your theory. Your response to that is "*shrug*"?

Because your "10 logical inconsistencies" are one thing, phrased 10 different ways, and I've answered it over and over and over again. You keep writing essays saying the exact same thing.

But hey, you drew me back in. Like I said, you can think what you want. It's fine. I know what I think.

 

[Water Bob]

Let's not forget that Star Wars is Space Opera, not hard science fiction. It has the hard science respect of Flash Gordon. Boom, Boom! Bam, Bam! Zip-zip! Zoom-Zoom!

We're talking giant space slugs that live on airless asteroids, inside asteroid belts that are impossibly crowded.

We're talking starships that are as big as cities in space, or even small moons, or even, entire rogue planets that are weaponized and can suck the power away from a star.

This is a world of BIG DAMN HEROES with laser swords, and MEAN, MERCILESS BAD GUYS with fanatical armies. Light vs. Dark. Good vs. Bad.

All told in a swashbuckling, rip-roaring, hold-on-to-the-seat-of-your-pants-Fred style!

STAR WARS!

 

[Maxperson]

So I finally saw the movie yesterday. My major complaint is that other than killing off more main characters to make room for the new generation of heroes and villains, the plot was in almost the same spot at the end of the movie as it was at the beginning of the movie. We still have big bad evil guys chasing small remnants of the rebels. It was an entertaining movie, but nothing much happened.

The plot holes were pretty sizable, but I really didn't mind them so much. I did wonder why Rey didn't just let go of the light saber and flip it on. Sure it would have gone 4 more inches to Kylo's hand, but all that would have done was move the blade that went through his heart another 4 inches out of his back. Ah, well. Opportunity lost.

 

[Maxperson]

Not really a plot hole, but more of a quandary. The Force Projection of Luke walks into the base from the "secret" rear opening, and that's what leads Poe and the rest to go searching for that other way out, unseen by the First Order.

The escaping Rebels didn't know that Luke was a Force Projection--they were escaping, and none of them saw him disappear.

So....if he was a Force Projection, he really didn't need an opening to walk through. He could have just appeared, walking up from the darkness of the cave. Yet, it is a coincidence that there is a secret rear opening--that all the Rebels assume Luke used (at least until they find it closed by the rock slide)--when the Force Projection really had nothing to do with the rear entrance.

Of course, there's the crystal coyotes, too.

Or else he did come of the darkness of the cave and they just assumed he had to have come in another way. It's a good assumption with the rebels not being aware of Luke being a projection.

 

[Maxperson]

I didn't mind those ones as much as when Holdo says "Godspeed". There's never any mention of a god in the Star Wars universe, so that seems super out of place. It's always the Force.

Sure there is. C3PO was mistake by the Ewoks as their god, so we know they exist in the galaxy.

I don't think Rose is dead. At the end, when Finn gets the blanket, I think he would've covered her whole body if she was dead. Instead, he just puts the blanket on her like he's trying to keep her warm.

He also calls for a medic.

But he survived being cut in half and dropped down a reactor core! If Maul can survive that, then surely a more powerful dark side user like Snoke can too! He's clearly survived some pretty horrible injuries in the past (unless they're just meant to be the side-effects of his dark side use).

I agree. Looking a Snoke during the movie, he looks burned and scarred. He also has mannerisms and uses phrases very similar to one Palpatine, so I thought perhaps he could be the Emperor who survived his fall into the reactor. He may even have gone to the far regions to recover.