Will you make transsexual Elves canon in your games ?

[Mouseferatu]

I find it difficult to consider an ability possessed by a fraction of a fraction of the race to be much of a retcon, frankly.

Especially a race already known for having about a million subtypes.

 

[MoonSong]

Justify? There is no need, you either make it a part of your world or you don't. It fits in well with established elven lore in D&D, and it makes elves more different than humans . . . which is a good thing. Too often various D&D races are just humans with pointy ears, short and cheerful humans, short and grumpy humans, short mischievous humans, humans with devilish features, humans with fur, claws, and pointy teeth . . .

I find it amusing how this idea bothers some of the folks in this thread, and the contortions some are going through to say "no".

Honestly, this stuff bothers me. It is distracting, calls attention to itself, and changes the overall feel of the campaign from "Let's have some fun escapism" to "let's reenact some kinky immature stuff". I will not adopt this on any game I run, won't invite it, and won't allow it without good reason. -Making a player feel accepted and welcome is a good reason; giving someone carte blanche to start making everyone uncomfortable is not-.

Unless the blessing of Corellon brings something positive to the table that we can't do without, I won't even consider it. To me it belongs with the BoEF and the Girdle of Masculinity/Femininity, that is, in any table but mine.

 

[Umbran]

Honestly, this stuff bothers me. It is distracting, calls attention to itself, and changes the overall feel of the campaign from "Let's have some fun escapism" to "let's reenact some kinky immature stuff".

You want to tell the transgender person who I sometimes have at my table that something that gives her representation is, "kinky immature stuff"?

 

[Mouseferatu]

Honestly, this stuff bothers me. It is distracting, calls attention to itself, and changes the overall feel of the campaign from "Let's have some fun escapism" to "let's reenact some kinky immature stuff".

There is nothing innately kinky, or even erotic, in a character who can change gender/sex unless you choose to make it so. And I expected better from you.

 

[TheCosmicKid]

You want to tell the transgender person who I sometimes have at my table that something that gives her representation is, "kinky immature stuff"?

She's better represented by the standard PHB paragraph on gender, to be honest. This is more like a fantastic exaggeration of gender fluidity than transgenderness.

 

[Dire Bare]

She's better represented by the standard PHB paragraph on gender, to be honest. This is more like a fantastic exaggeration of gender fluidity than transgenderness.

Yes, it's fantastic. This is a fantasy game. What's wrong with some inclusion of some fantasy that would be right up a transgendered persons alley? I'm not trans myself, but I would imagine that the ability to simply change to the gender that best represents my soul would be pretty freaking fantastic!

Again, I am amused by the contortions some of us are going through to avoid actually saying outright this pushes our comfort zone with gay and transgendered folks.

 

[Umbran]

She's better represented by the standard PHB paragraph on gender, to be honest. This is more like a fantastic exaggeration of gender fluidity than transgenderness.

Ah.. I see. Thank you for telling my transgender friend what is better for her.

You would know this... how, exactly? You'd know better than she does because...?

 

[schnee]

To me, it's canon, always has been.

"Corellon is alternately male or female, both or neither."

It's fine. It's not an attack on you.

 

[Mouseferatu]

She's better represented by the standard PHB paragraph on gender, to be honest. This is more like a fantastic exaggeration of gender fluidity than transgenderness.

I've seen quite a few of my online trans friends celebrating the Blessing of Corellon and looking forward to making use of it, but thanks anyway.

 

[TheCosmicKid]

Ah.. I see. Thank you for telling my transgender friend what is better for her.

You would know this... how, exactly? You'd know better than she does because...?

That's not what I said. I said the PHB provides better representation. It does this because it flat-out says that actual transgender human beings are welcome as characters. The Blessing of Corellon can bring lots of positive things to a game, but for representation, there's no beating the genuine article.

Look. It's pretty clear from the hackles that have been raised that I worded my point poorly. I'm sorry for that. But maybe consider the effect that your own snap judgment might have on the discourse? My first impulse was to defend myself with sarcasm of my own, and I don't think that would have gone anywhere good.