FrogReaver
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Then you aren't trying to understand what drove the other side to what they were doing. You are just saying bad bad bad.
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D&D 4E Presentation vs design... vs philosophy
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Then you aren't trying to understand what drove the other side to what they were doing. You are just saying bad bad bad.
Lanefan
Victoria Rules
A great many poets and songwriters over the years would seem to disagree.
Not sure this is always true, but even if it is anger can sometimes be a good motivator.
Neonchameleon
Legend
On the contrary. I tried to understand them at the time. I tried to understand them again when 4e was replaced by something I consider to be a vastly inferior game with the consistency of tofu.
And I came to the conclusion that they were hating on 4e because they enjoyed hating on something and found a sense of community doing so. They may have disliked it - but the idea the WotC ninjas would steal their books was always risible. As were quite a few of the claims.
Yes I'm saying it was bad. This was after trying to understand it and finding that when I was on the other side the desire to behave like that was something bad.
Neonchameleon
Legend
And a great many would agree. It depends whether requited.
Yes - when grit or destruction are needed. Hence my comments about there being things worth hating - and games not being on the list.
FrogReaver
The most respectful and polite poster ever
Well, they could be worth hating if a current game is standing in the way of you getting the game you want... just sayin
Neonchameleon
Legend
And I refer you back to earlier comments I've made on hate being toxic to you. No it's not worth it.
FrogReaver
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Notice how him disliking 5e and telling me about it doesn't bother me.
I think you portray sinister motives where they didn't exist. I think you portray fear about something that no one had any fear about. Sounds more like a fanboy talking point than a real argument.
No one thought WOTC ninja's would steal their books. No one started hating 4e out of enjoyment. No one continued doing so out of enjoyment either.
I don't think that's the full story. I think if you though that expressing your dislike of 5e (i'm not sure if it goes all the way up to hatred for you) could make a difference in you getting a new game in the style you more enjoy that you would do it. But that boat has sailed. IMO.
FrogReaver
The most respectful and polite poster ever
Hating a game isn't toxic.
Neonchameleon
Legend
Yes it is. The healthy reaction to disliking a game is play something else.
Hatred is always toxic.
FrogReaver
The most respectful and polite poster ever
The healthy reaction is to express your emotions.
