Why modern movies suck - they teach us awful lessons

[Mallus]

What I don't get is why Directors write scripts instead of actual professional writers.

Because some directors are also good writers?

Modern example: the Coen Brothers.

Classic Hollywood example: Preston Sturges.

(I wonder if the Drinker even knows who Preston Sturges is?)

 

[BookTenTiger]

@darkwillow perhaps one issue you are having is that you haven't posted much of an opinion or argument yourself other than supporting the YouTube video, which as others have pointed out seems to echo the same misogynistic critiques often used on films with a female protagonist.

So what is your opinion? If you think modern movies lack character arcs, can you name a movie with a male protagonist that fits your critique?

 

[Snarf Zagyg]

Because some directors are also good writers?

Modern example: the Coen Brothers.

Classic Hollywood example: Preston Sturges.

(I wonder if the Drinker even knows who Preston Sturges is?)

If his name is The Drinker, then it would be kind of pathetic not to know who Preston Sturges was.


It would be like adopting the nom de plume of The Misanthropic Alcoholic who Hates Children, and when someone said, "Like WC Fields?" the guy would reply, "Who?"

 

[Mallus]

Man, this thread is making me miss the the indie film scene of the 1990s.

Writer-directors like Hal Hartley (Henry Fool), Whit Stillman (Metropolitan), Gregg Araki (the Teenage Apocalypse trilogy), and Wes Anderson (whose early works kinda count, though Owen Wilson shares a writing credit on them).

 

[UngainlyTitan]

Here is a question: does a movie need a character arc? I can think of quite a few hugely successful ones that didn't. Most of the pre-Craig Bond movies for example. Bond comes in, sorts out the problem, and is exactly the same person at the end of the movie that he was at the start.

No it does not, decent dialogue, actor chemistry and you can get a moderately entertaining movie, or even a very entertaining movie.

 

[Hex08]

If his name is The Drinker, then it would be kind of pathetic not to know who Preston Sturges was.


It would be like adopting the nom de plume of The Misanthropic Alcoholic who Hates Children, and when someone said, "Like WC Fields?" the guy would reply, "Who?"

To be fair, some of us drink to stop knowing things

 

[Snarf Zagyg]

Man, this thread is making me miss the the indie film scene of the 1990s.

Writer-directors like Hal Hartley (Henry Fool), Whit Stillman (Metropolitan), Gregg Araki (the Teenage Apocalypse trilogy), and Wes Anderson (whose early works kinda count, though Owen Wilson shares a writing credit on them).

I just watched the French Dispatch (streaming). It was really good.

It's definitely ... well, it's no Grand Hotel Budapest, but it's quite good.

 

[Mallus]

To be fair, some of us drink to stop knowing things

Bravo!

 

[BookTenTiger]

I just watched the French Dispatch (streaming). It was really good.

It's definitely ... well, it's no Grand Hotel Budapest, but it's quite good.

It's one of his funniest films, I was laughing the entire time.

 

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