D&D 5E First World: Possibly One of the New D&D setting?

[Paul Farquhar]

Not necessarily. You can creating a campaign world were they (the people in the world) believe it is the "Frist World," that doesn't make it true. There doesn't need to be proof for the setting to work.

Or you could add "people believe this is the First World" to any existing campaign setting.

If it's not true, what would be the point?

 

[teitan]

It’s certainly possible. But what’s the draw? What’s unique about it? From the descriptions it’s literally the kitchen sink all other kitchen sinks came from.

There are descriptions of it?

 

[dave2008]

Or you could add "people believe this is the First World" to any existing campaign setting.

If it's not true, what would be the point?

The point would be to create a new campaign setting, they have said they will be doing that after all.

 

[Paul Farquhar]

The point would be to create a new campaign setting, they have said they will be doing that after all.

What would be the point of creating that setting - a First World setting that isn't actually a First World setting? As opposed to any other setting, such as a Transformer Dinobot setting?

There are an infinite number of potential settings they could be working on that don't come preloaded with problems.

 

[dave2008]

What would be the point of creating that setting - a First World setting that isn't actually a First World setting? As opposed to any other setting, such as a Transformer Dinobot setting?

There are an infinite number of potential settings they could be working on that don't come preloaded with problems.

Why create Eberron or Darksun? Those are settings that are separate, and yet not. My reason would be to create a setting that proposes what a "Firsts World" might be for those who might want to play in such a setting. For those who don't like that concept view of the D&D cosmos, it would be a "Lost World" type of setting. The actual origins of it / relationship to the larger cosmos are mostly irrelevant, just as it is in Eberron and Dark Sun. It is functionally cut off from the rest of the cosmology.

But I don't know - they haven't created it. There are lots of things I could do with the concept that would interest me.

 

[Rogerd1]

This needs saying, but I think at the moment the backstory does not make sense, in any way.

Dragons created the Prime Material Plane, yeah right.
The Primordials. Hardly.
The gods are equally as powerless.

Yeah, someone with some brains really needs to write the cosmology a bit better. Take a leaf from DC comics, Marvel, or somewhere else.

 

[Levistus's_Leviathan]

Dragons created the Prime Material Plane, yeah right.

I do think that is the point of presenting the First World from the viewpoint of the Dragons. They truly believe that their gods (Tiamat and Bahamut, with some help from Sardior) created the Prime Material Plane. They believe that they are the rightful inhabitants of the Material Plane, and everyone else is an invader that took what was rightfully theirs. This explains why all dragons are xenophobic and narcissistic naughty words. They truly believe that the Multiverse was created by them (or their gods) and that they're justified in killing these so called "invaders".

WotC has not said that their viewpoint is correct, just that the Dragons believe it. Which, in my opinion, is good worldbuilding.

 

[dave2008]

This needs saying, but I think at the moment the backstory does not make sense, in any way.

Dragons created the Prime Material Plane, yeah right.
The Primordials. Hardly.
The gods are equally as powerless.

Yeah, someone with some brains really needs to write the cosmology a bit better. Take a leaf from DC comics, Marvel, or somewhere else.

Oh god I hope not. Marvel and DC are an inconsistent mess when it comes to cosmology over the years, IMO. I mean the embodiment of the universe were defeated by the infinity gauntlet. Really?!

I much prefer the Primordials and the Dawn War to anything Marvel or DC have created.

 

[teitan]

The Dragon version of the First World myth doesn't have to match the Giant version of the First World myth. Rival civilizations don't often agree on each others' origins.

In fact they go to war over it.

 

[teitan]

Indeed. And this is why it doesn't make commercial sense for WotC to produce a First World campaign setting. There are many players who prefer to use their own creation myths, so don't want WotC to dictate a "definitely true" creation myth. So, by leaving it as myth, they provide an "off the peg" explanation for those who want it, whilst allowing those who prefer something else to say "that myth isn't true".

Note that WotC already know the "myth" approach works, since Keith Baker used it for Eberron.

Why? It’s easy to ignore. Like any other setting or lore bit. The rules even say “don’t like something, change it”.