D&D General The New York Times on D&D

[Mercurius]

I fail to see how this is a "hit piece." A hit on who? It seems pretty balanced: some view it this way, some view it that way, most don't care either way.

 

[Whizbang Dustyboots]

I fail to see how this is a "hit piece." A hit on who?

My feelings, Merc. My feelings.

 

[Bedrockgames]

My feelings, Merc. My feelings.

"The article looks all in order but how does it make @Whizbang Dustyboots feel?" is practically a newsroom editor cliche at this point

 

[TiQuinn]

I fail to see how this is a "hit piece." A hit on who? It seems pretty balanced: some view it this way, some view it that way, most don't care either way.

As I said, it elevates a trollish contingent.

 

[Whizbang Dustyboots]

"The article looks all in order but how does it make @Whizbang Dustyboots feel?" is practically a newsroom editor cliche at this point

The world would be a much better place if everyone, at all times, was concerned about how I personally was affected by any and all actions they might take.

 

[payn]

I fail to see how this is a "hit piece." A hit on who? It seems pretty balanced: some view it this way, some view it that way, most don't care either way.

Its not a hit piece, its a hit the culture war wasp nest piece.

 

[billd91]

Its not a hit piece, its a hit the culture war wasp nest piece.

…which means it’s effectively stoking the culture war. So while it isn’t written as a hit piece, it still plays that role by publicizing objections to something that shouldn’t be particularly controversial. Not all viewpoints are equally valid and need to be presented for “balance”.

 

[payn]

…which means it’s effectively stoking the culture war. So while it isn’t written as a hit piece, it still plays that role by publicizing objections to something that shouldn’t be particularly controversial. Not all viewpoints are equally valid and need to be presented for “balance”.

No arguments here. Im not sayin; im just sayin.

 

[Belen]

Which is why quoting Rob Kuntz, even though he was one of the older designers for the game and would seem like a relevant point of comparison to an outsider, strikes very weirdly because he is now as far on the outer fringes of the game as could be. But he was the one who had a standout contrary opinion, and that’s what they needed.

Does he have a standout contrary position? Is he on the outer fringes of the game?

Maybe. That is true of ENWorld consensus.

This may be the self-selection bias in the online community.

We cannot say if it is fringe or just fringe in comparison to this community.

There could be a large contingent of people who agree and either remain silent when engaging online or just stopped engaging with the wider online community because they no longer feel welcome or comfortable engaging.

Our only gauge is personal experience and experience with our personal communities and networks. That is biased information.

I do see a difference in my own gaming networks that differs greatly from much of the mainstream discussions on ENWorld. This happens, in part, because they just do not think about D&D the way we do or even notice the changes.

A lot of folks will not even read species descriptions etc. They will just keep thinking of them in terms of the initial point of interaction.

It could be that the opinions here are the minority ones.

 

[TiQuinn]

Does he have a standout contrary position? Is he on the outer fringes of the game?

Maybe. That is true of ENWorld consensus.

This may be the self-selection bias in the online community.

We cannot say if it is fringe or just fringe in comparison to this community.

There could be a large contingent of people who agree and either remain silent when engaging online or just stopped engaging with the wider online community because they no longer feel welcome or comfortable engaging.

Our only gauge is personal experience and experience with our personal communities and networks. That is biased information.

I do see a difference in my own gaming networks that differs greatly from much of the mainstream discussions on ENWorld. This happens, in part, because they just do not think about D&D the way we do or even notice the changes.

A lot of folks will not even read species descriptions etc. They will just keep thinking of them in terms of the initial point of interaction.

It could be that the opinions here are the minority ones.

And yet, WotC, Paizo, Kobold Press, Darrington Press, and MCDM all have moved away from or started their new systems using another word besides race. So it would seem that they at least have some idea of what their customer base prefers, even if ENWorld is its own particular community.