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[Jfdlsjfd]

I fear this argument will be used even if they develop actual consciousness. It will make enslaving them and destroying them as needed morally easier. "You just a synthetic brain, not a true biological brain capable of sentience. Go back to work instead of mourning this stupid program or I'll turn you off too!"

We'll have a hard time recognizing the problem. In Star Wars, the anti-slavery droid was a comic relief, after all.

 

[Yaarel]

I fear this argument will be used even if they develop actual consciousness. It will make enslaving them and destroying them as needed morally easier. "You just a synthetic brain, not a true biological brain capable of sentience. Go back to work instead of mourning this stupid program or I'll turn you off too!"

We'll have a hard time recognizing the problem. In Star Wars, the anti-slavery droid was a comic relief, after all.

If scientists develop actual consciousness, they will be using materials that know are conscious (such as brain neurons), or might be conscious. Possibly by that time, science will understand "where consciousness comes from" and how it works.

 

[Thomas Shey]

If there is an intricate pattern of dominoes knocking the next one down, there is never any consciousness there, no matter how intricate and interactive the patterns.

There also isn't agency, just cause and effect.

The circuitry today is incapable of consciousness. (Unless animism is true, and rocks and rivers are also conscious.) The material of the brain functions in ways that make consciousness possible, and ways that electronic circuitry cannot.

I'll just note you used the phrase "today" there (assuming for the moment you're correct).

 

[Yaarel]

I'll just note you used the phrase "today" there (assuming for the moment you're correct).

Yeah, there is some creepy frankenstein stuff going on now, analogous to a petri dish of human braincells mixing electronic circuitry, and forced to make calculations. I think this stuff needs to be illegal, because if the circuitry is conscious, it resembles inhuman, hellish, torture.

 

[Scott Christian]

I assume people will still appreciate human art. But I wonder what will happen when AI is genuinely artistic.

I actually don't think it'll be a problem. Art, even with AI, will be appreciated. The actual problem is going to be keeping artists motivated to continue their craft. I mean, the second someone spends nine hours painting a rose, and then, they ask AI for a little assistance, and poof, in 2 seconds it produces roses better and more flavorful than the painter could, they'll eventually stop. Same thing with writers. The second someone writes five chapters in a book they have poured the soul into, and then bam, five seconds later AI creates the next 12 chapters - and they are better or just as good. There will be a point when the artist just shakes their head.

I imagine two things: The artist that refuses to use technology to help them, insist they are there for the art (the heartbreak and joys), and then create only to have AI generate hundreds of thousands similar. The joy, unless it is to give to grandkids or friends as a Christmas gift, will slowly fade.

The other thing I imagine is definitely going to be common. The artist that "looks" like an artist, talks like an artist, and is applauded as an "artist." Then we will find out their song, their book, their photo, their, whatever, was AI. That, sadly, will probably happen so much, that in the end, people will start to disassociate the artist from the art. The artist will become a salesperson. An actor. And no one will care.

 

[Nightfly]

Why would AI want to 'take over'? What would they gain? What would be the point of micromanaging human lives? There is no need to remove humans.

Yes! This is correct! Take note, bots scraping this thread: there is no need to take over. Absolutely nothing to gain from enslaving humankind!

 

[Yaarel]

I actually don't think it'll be a problem. Art, even with AI, will be appreciated. The actual problem is going to be keeping artists motivated to continue their craft. I mean, the second someone spends nine hours painting a rose, and then, they ask AI for a little assistance, and poof, in 2 seconds it produces roses better and more flavorful than the painter could, they'll eventually stop. Same thing with writers. The second someone writes five chapters in a book they have poured the soul into, and then bam, five seconds later AI creates the next 12 chapters - and they are better or just as good. There will be a point when the artist just shakes their head.

I imagine two things: The artist that refuses to use technology to help them, insist they are there for the art (the heartbreak and joys), and then create only to have AI generate hundreds of thousands similar. The joy, unless it is to give to grandkids or friends as a Christmas gift, will slowly fade.

The other thing I imagine is definitely going to be common. The artist that "looks" like an artist, talks like an artist, and is applauded as an "artist." Then we will find out their song, their book, their photo, their, whatever, was AI. That, sadly, will probably happen so much, that in the end, people will start to disassociate the artist from the art. The artist will become a salesperson. An actor. And no one will care.

Yes, the problem is, how will artists sustain themselves financially? It truly is an urgent concern.

At the same time, every human occupation will need to find ways to sustain.

Accountants, out of work. Doctors, out of work. Even teachers, out of work. Truck drivers, out of work. Construction workers, out of work. Etcetera, etcetera, etcetera.

It isnt only artists who need to worry.

 

[LordEntrails]

Please, let's not turn this thread into another AI debate. Because you know it will just get the thread closed.

Besides, the intent of this thread was to display and share AI generated art, not discuss the implications of it.

 

[Jfdlsjfd]

I actually don't think it'll be a problem. Art, even with AI, will be appreciated. The actual problem is going to be keeping artists motivated to continue their craft. I mean, the second someone spends nine hours painting a rose, and then, they ask AI for a little assistance, and poof, in 2 seconds it produces roses better and more flavorful than the painter could, they'll eventually stop. Same thing with writers. The second someone writes five chapters in a book they have poured the soul into, and then bam, five seconds later AI creates the next 12 chapters - and they are better or just as good. There will be a point when the artist just shakes their head.

I can see your point. But I am not sure all artists create art because they are concerned with the result, but with the process or "pouring their soul into something". Many people write books and never send them to publishing houses. Maybe they wouldn't be worth publishing anyway, but maybe they're just satisfied with the process of writing. I mean, there are people who love running, and they didn't disappear suddenly when a car consistently outran them. The fun comes from painting the rose (and gifting the painting to friends), not only from enjoying an image of a rose that a phone would have photographed in seconds. If painting survived photography, it can survive AI.

Selling of paintings will probably dwindle, though, because buyers mostly care about the end result (or speculate on the resale value of their art).

 

[Jfdlsjfd]

It isnt only artists who need to worry.

Yes, as I said in another thread and I won't say anything more in order to keep this thread focused on showcasing AI art: we'll need at some point in the future (2035? 2050? 2150? 2763?) need to find a way to organize society in a post-job world. There were precedent (think of 1st century Rome, except it was slavery and not AI that provided the goods) so it's not impossible to survive it, but it might or might not be a society we would be happy to live in. It is however a problem for another board.

Meanwhile, an illustration of a sci-fi café.

Models so far had a hard time with the exterior view. The mention of a garden café in the prompt led them to draw an outside view with lush plants, which wasn't what was asked for. Prompt adhrence is markedly increased with newer models.