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The Liberation of Tenh (updated April 24)

Morte

Explorer
(contact) said:
like a vampire at his first debutante’s ball.

Nice. Yours?

In other words, Cranzer was 12th level when the PCs started the freaking LoT campaign, and he's been sitting on his hairy behind most of the time since then, so if he's 15th level by the time they get around to mauling him it would be a miracle.

It would just strain my sense of disbelief as a player if all of a sudden every Iuzian were 19th level, just because the PCs need foes that tough to give them the appropriate amount of hell when they scry-buff-jump bad.

Ya know, I've worked out the thing I like about this SH. Behind the operatic action and prose, which are fun, there's a really solid story/world going on. I don't know if you plan it or wing it or it's reactive to the players, but that doesn't really matter so long as it sticks together.

You clearly put serious thought into your NPC groups, and how they hang together or don't, and it's all believable and consistent. We may only see the surface because that's all the PCs find (who were those druids and why were they raiding the ore?) but the depth is clearly there.

As for the scry and fry ops, the Liberators picked the right target. If you tried something like this on the church of Pelor they'd close ranks, alert their members, erect defences/traps and start work on the counterattack. Iuzians are easier. But some suitably heavyweight opponent(s) will get the idea in the end. I look forward to it. ;)
 

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(contact)

Explorer
Hey, thanks for the votes of confidence, everyone. I've just shared them with the demonic entity that possesses my body when I'm DMing, and he finds your support . . . well, he actually finds your support alien and utterly incomprehensible, but he is a metaphysical embodiment of pure evil.

I'm sure if it were cosmologically possible, he would be grateful for the kind words as well.

KidCthulhu said:
Contact, I'm not suggesting you pull out the "hose 'em" stick. I think you've got the right idea, to keep your world real and accurate. But I can't wait to see what you have up your sleeve.

(Whispering) A toddler vampire swarm.
 



coyote6

Adventurer
Zaruthustran said:
Another thing for Bad Guys to do is RUN, then come back with reinforcements. For instance: a Bad Guy could have a contingency that "Whenever anyone teleports within 60' of me, I Teleport away". Poof! Now the PCs are stuck facing the bodyguards, while the Bad Guy buffs, preps, and grabs reinforcements. If the Bad Guy isn't a caster he can just wear a Spell Storing something-or-other, or have a couple bodyguard spellcasters with quickened Teleports nearby.

A couple of 17th+ level wizards standing around as bodyguards? Now that's power inflation. :)

I think (contact)'s point was that it strains credibility for him if everybody has access to all this stuff. Bad guys can prepare for this sort of thing, but they have to dedicate a lot of resources (wealth, spells, etc.) to walking around all the time, just in case someone decides to scry-buff-teleport. It can become rather silly.

And most of 'em will simply cause the Liberators to slightly modify the tactic, to scry-buff-teleport-greater dispel-greater dispel (repeat the last part as needed). Or, when Pris hits sufficient level, scry-buff-teleport-disjunction. Or, the Liberators teleport in a bunny rabbit or the like, watch the sixteen contingencies go off, chuckle for an hour or two, and then pop in when the bad guys have used up half their resources for the day.
 

thatdarncat

Overlord of Chat
coyote6 said:

Or, the Liberators teleport in a bunny rabbit or the like, watch the sixteen contingencies go off, chuckle for an hour or two, and then pop in when the bad guys have used up half their resources for the day.

Teleport-Scry-Teleport-Scry would work as well.
 

I'm surprised no one has mentioned Mind Blank. Now there is the ultimate Scry-Fry thwarter. Can't Teleport to what you can't detect, right?

I know what you're thinking: that's an 8th level Wizard spell. You're pushing suspension of disbelief if everyone is suddenly 15th level or more. Fair enough, but there's a reasonable solution to this as well. For the discerning Boneheart members, or at least the ones who have the financial wherewithal, consider an amulet that casts Mind Blank once a day (command word activated). (8 x 15 x 1800) x 1/5 for the limited casting = 43,600 GP. Sure, it's pricey, but the truly paranoid and powerful would buy one. With a 24 duration per casting, you stay protected all the time, so long as you remember to utter the command word each morning.

Not as much style as Vampire Toddler Swarms, but it's a thought.
 

(contact)

Explorer
How much is a new SpaceBaby? Say, standard model, basic features?

SpaceBaby Industries said:
For the discerning Boneheart members, or at least the ones who have the financial wherewithal, consider an amulet that casts Mind Blank once a day

One of the things that really limits NPC villains is the need to keep their magic item total low. If the Iuzians were built with the same sort of resources that PCs are assumed to have, there'd be a lot more Good-aligned blood left on the floor when all was said and done.

The trouble is, in the LoT especially, anything that the bad guys have, the good guys will get eventually.

:eek:

I've thrown a monkey wrench into their scrying from time to time-- Maskaleyne had his "away team" which was designed to teleport in on the PCs as they were buffing (didn't work out, tough luck. RIP fellas), Zeflen in Calibut foils scrying because he stretches the definition of "a being", etc.

But for the most part, I think it's okay. My group self-polices very well-- if they were actually straining the fun factor with cheesy tactics, they'd cut it out, or we'd just house-rule a fix. As it is, we're all having a good time, they take the occasional defeat along with the victories, and the campaign crunches along.

Jespo simpers, Fras hisses, Regda coddles, Lucius plots, Belvor booms, Gwendolyn sashays, Dabus reassures, Thrommel dies, Pris bats her eyes, and Heydricus admires his muscles in the mirror.

In some ways, the fighting is really just the backdrop for the fun stuff (IMO). I love political campaigns, and Heydricus coming up with something like the marriage of Butrain's daughter and Thrommel did more damage to my sub-plotting than any amount of scry-buff-teleports would! In fact, between that, their trip to Nyrond, and the letter to Halrond, they really won the game.

Tenh is essentially Liberated. (Although don't tell the Pale or the troll army occupying the Southern border-- they might disagree.)

Scry-buff-teleport is no more or no less than clerics weilding maces, or monks who can't use swords. It's kind of silly, but C'est la D&D.

That said, we *did* house-rule that teleport requires a partial action (3.0e terminology) to orient, thus preventing the surprise round - -> win initiative bloodbaths. There aren't many ways to build a bad guy that can get past two rounds of the Liberators. Ask Maskeylene if you don't belive me. I'd built that guy with *love*, even created a new template (Rotted One) for his pretty behind, and he barely got to say something evil before they wasted him. I was like, "for this I spent four hours?" :D

The Will save vs. scrying will lessen the frequency of, but won't prevent what we've seen in the past, and I'm okay with that.

The other nice thing about picking Iuzians for enemies, is that they are both deep and broad as an organization. Everything from barbarian giants to humongous bleeding obelisks could concieveably make their way onto The List.

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You'll see two things in the next few updates:

First, you'll see that the Liberators are definately vulnerable, a point that was presented in a unique (at least to our experience) fashion. See, the killing of Panshazek in Dorraka *was* sufficiently meaningful enough to trigger an organized response. Now, the Liberators aren't just taking out peripheral servants or out-of-favor VIPs in the Provinces-- they are killing Boneheart members *at the seat of Iuz' authority*. This is bad, mmmmmkay?

Second, you'll see that sometimes Bad Guys don't have enough levels between them to even have a chance. :D
 

One of the things that really limits NPC villains is the need to keep their magic item total low. If the Iuzians were built with the same sort of resources that PCs are assumed to have, there'd be a lot more Good-aligned blood left on the floor when all was said and done.

Now, I'm not implying you're one of those DMs, but the dominating evil entity you mentioned early might be, so here's another thought. Make the item in question useable only by Eeevil characters, or better yet, Iuz worshippers. The latter prevents Lucius as well, thereby a LoT proof modification. Excepting being able to spoof via sufficient Use Magic Device, which I don't think anyone has from what I've seen.

As an added "rub it in" factor, the price would, at least in theory, go down with this modification - a further 30% reduction. Sport a flashy Iuz UnHoly Symbol complete with Peace of Mind Blank(tm) for a mere 30,520 GP! A mere pittance for someone who has looted an entire nation.

Admittedly, one could always scry known associates and/or bodyguards, but at least this means the LoT have to work at it a little bit. There's also that immunity to mind affecting spells and mind reading. That has to be a plus when you're in the Boneheart.

Jespo simpers, Fras hisses, Regda coddles, Lucius plots, Belvor booms, Gwendolyn sashays, Dabus reassures, Thrommel dies, Pris bats her eyes, and Heydricus admires his muscles in the mirror.

Sounds like everyonem players and DM included, are having a blast, so that means the campaign is a rousing success. What more could you ask for?

How much is a new SpaceBaby? Say, standard model, basic features?

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For D&D situations, may I suggest the SBI Master of the Arcane package:
 

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Zaruthustran

The tingling means it’s working!
(contact) said:
Jespo simpers, Fras hisses, Regda coddles, Lucius plots, Belvor booms, Gwendolyn sashays, Dabus reassures, Thrommel dies, Pris bats her eyes, and Heydricus admires his muscles in the mirror.

Laugh. Out. Loud. :p

My oh my, that earned me a few quizzical looks here in the cube farm.

-z
 

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