Is Sigil on the inside of a ring or a donut?

Mystery Man

First Post

• Sep 1, 2004

• #11

*smack* Mmm Doooonuuuts. *smack*

 

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trancejeremy

Adventurer

• Sep 1, 2004

• #12

If it were a donut, it would have been called Krispy Kremescape

 

Bran Blackbyrd

Explorer

• Sep 1, 2004

• #13

It's a torus. Like a city built on the inside of a car tire. The real question is, how thick are the walls of the tire? How far can you dig down before you poke through to nothingness, or is that even possible?

 

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dead

Adventurer

• Sep 1, 2004

• #14

Bran Blackbyrd said:

The real question is, how thick are the walls of the tire? How far can you dig down before you poke through to nothingness, or is that even possible?

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Well, you must be able to dig down to a certain extent because Monte Cook's Faction War adventure features an "Under Sigil" (Sigildark?). There's a bunch of folk living in Under Sigil (I think they're called darkers or something) and also there's the Under Sigil town of Nowhere (or No Place?) where criminals and those who don't want to be found go to lay low.

 

Incenjucar

Legend

• Sep 1, 2004

• #15

Think of it as a tire filled with dirt. Nobody knows what the tire looks like is the trick.

 

Piratecat

Sesquipedalian

• Sep 1, 2004

• #16

trancejeremy said:

If it were a donut, it would have been called Krispy Kremescape

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I predict that this will be the funniest thing I read all day.

 

Henry

Autoexreginated

• Sep 1, 2004

• #17

I was going to shrink this down, but I wanted it to have the full effect. (Shemeska may want to hurt me the next time he sees me.)

 

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Piratecat

Sesquipedalian

• Sep 1, 2004

• #18

Now I know why you're an admin: mad 733t Photoshop skillz!

 

Klaus

First Post

• Sep 1, 2004

• #19

Incenjucar said:

Think of it as a tire filled with dirt. Nobody knows what the tire looks like is the trick.

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This is pretty much the answer.

Sigil is constanly being built and rebuilt. You can go down into the "subterranean" and find it filled with old catacombs, tunnels and buildings that were abandoned and built over. In fact, the Dabus (those jolly servants of the Lady) live in the subterranean. The general name of this is "Undersigil".

In the boxed set (iirc) or In the Cage: A Guide to Sigil it is said that on clerer days (when the smog clears a bit) you can barely see the opposite side of the ring. At night, you would see the other side's streetlights in the dark sky (kinda like stars, which Sigil has not).

Once in a while someone jumps from the ring, and vanishes forever. Flying creatures may be able to take a peek at the "outside" of Sigil, but vanish if they venture too far out (DM's discretion).

 

EricNoah

Adventurer

• Sep 1, 2004

• #20

Pkitty's tire analogy is spot-on.

Back in the day I seem to recall discussion of this topic on various mailing lists. The dimensions I settled on were: 20-mile circumference, width about 5 miles, and a "depth" (the thickness of the tire tread if you will) of somewhere around 1/4 to 1/2 a mile. Dimensions can be a bit wonky though because of the morphing nature of the place.